(Proof) Hiruzen > Shinsuusenju with Physics (Must Read)

[Trollasaur]

lol dem hashi fanboys are irate

 

[TrollingSage]

Hashirama cannot restrain Hiruzen.

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[KingHashirama]

No. You must be the one joking.

coming from the guy who believe Hiruzen can't be binded by Mokuton.. even though the 9-tails can.. lmao. get real dude.

 

[know it all]

that math doe :heh:

 

[Smd]

lol the list of ninja who can destory, "if it stands there and does nothing.
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Hiruzen
tobirama
Madara
Sasuke
Naruto
Muu
Oonki
Deidara
Kisame

list goes on.

 

[startup97]

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[KingHashirama]

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Notice how he needed Enma for that....

 

[Draphsin]

Notice how he needed Enma for that....

Uhh....Explain to me why that matters?

 

[KingHashirama]

Uhh....Explain to me why that matters?

Because you first need to make a hand and then summon it. Do you believe Hashirama will wait for him to do that instead of strengthening his bind.

 

[xxSasukEkUnxX]

No, you tried though.

Bringing math and real life physics into manga is illegal.

This is but a warning.

Get angry, utter, fanweenies, LMAO!

Good thread, "Fizz", I hope you, did these, calculations, of your own, if so, nice. People, do not realize, the weaknesses, of shinsuusenju, while, I highly doubt, Enma Pole, would be a technique in the series, capable of taking, the titan down, there are several, in the series, that can, do this, via logic, and more importantly, /Physics, LMAO!

Even if of, though, hiruzen, can of, take shinsuusenju down, not of saying he cannot, pull such a, feature off, but, I do not see, how Hiruzen, lasts that, long, until it comes, out?

Wood Gobi, Wood Dragon, nuff said, end of.

 

[Draphsin]

Because you first need to make a hand and then summon it. Do you believe Hashirama will wait for him to do that instead of strengthening his bind.

You think that hiruzen whouldnt summon his most powerful companion when going up against the god of shinobi? lol..

Its feasible to assume that summoning him would be hiruzen's first move.

 

[KingHashirama]

You think that hiruzen whouldnt summon his most powerful companion when going up against the god of shinobi? lol..

Its feasible to assume that summoning him would be hiruzen's first move.

He sure didn't bother to summon it there.... And no he wouldn't summon it, because he fights like a real shinobi, not rely on his summons.

 

[Joshutsu]

You think that hiruzen whouldnt summon his most powerful companion when going up against the god of shinobi? lol..

Its feasible to assume that summoning him would be hiruzen's first move.

The fight in part 1 says otherwise. How did we get to this anyways this thread doesn't even imply he can beat Hashirama.

 

[Hypemaster]

so this is what you were talking about.

 

[Draphsin]

He sure didn't bother to summon it there.... And no he wouldn't summon it, because he fights like a real shinobi, not rely on his summons.

Damn...KingHashi you never cease to amaze me u__u

He isnt relying on his summon, he fights along side it.

Jiraiya relies on summons, he doesnt fight like a real shinobi I guess....

The fight in part 1 says otherwise. How did we get to this anyways this thread doesn't even imply he can beat Hashirama.

@Bold: Read what hiruzen exclaims -

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"This is the shodai's secret art...This wont do" & immediately goes to bite his thumb. This is clear evidence that when faced with hashirama's jutsus hiruzen will almost certainly pull out enma immediately.

& I'm not implying anything...Kinghashi made a ridiculous comment regarding enma being the reason why hiruzen cant be restrained...

 

[KingHashirama]

Damn...KingHashi you cease to amaze me u__u

He isnt relying on his summon, he fights along side it.

Jiraiya relies on summons, he doesnt fight like a real shinobi I guess....
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Highly false, Jiraiya relies on summons when there are other summons involved.. Shinobi fight is a pure 1 vs 1. Like Obito vs Kakashi.

The statement was Hiruzen can't be restrained by Mokuton, manga suggests otherwise, so no point battering on about this convo.

 

[Draphsin]

Highly false, Jiraiya relies on summons when there are other summons involved.. Shinobi fight is a pure 1 vs 1. Like Obito vs Kakashi.

Avoid the point all you want, jiraiya uses summons where he sees fit (vs kisame), so does hiruzen, there is no difference.

The statement was Hiruzen can't be restrained by Mokuton, manga suggests otherwise, so no point battering on about this convo.

Enma clearly proves your wrong. u__u

 

[KingHashirama]

Avoid the point all you want, jiraiya uses summons where he sees fit (vs kisame), so does hiruzen, there is no difference.



Enma clearly proves your wrong. u__u

It was a 2 vs 1... not a 1 vs 1.... different scenario.

He was restrained, Enma broke him out of it. In the end he was restrained.

 

[Joshutsu]

& I'm not implying anything...Kinghashi made a ridiculous comment regarding enma being the reason why hiruzen cant be restrained...

Enma is indeed the reason he can't be restrained. You have to be restrained to be cut loose. He was restrained until enma came and cut him out therefore kinghashi's claim must be correct.

 

[Draphsin]

It was a 2 vs 1... not a 1 vs 1.... different scenario.

No, jiraiya used the summon to protect naruto, he used it in a situation where it would be useful (just like against other summons).

Hiruzen uses enma against mokuton because emna can shatter it, why are you foolishly saying that he isnt a real shinobi when its literally his only way to defend against mokuton? Your logic is really bad bro...You expect hiruzen to use shuriken & taijutsu against hashi's mokuton, while completely neglecting the one tool in his arsenal that can shatter it? lmfao yeah okay....../sarcasm & your post

He was restrained, Enma broke him out of it. In the end he was restrained.

Lol fact of the matter is that restraining hiruzen doesnt work.

Enma is indeed the reason he can't be restrained. You have to be restrained to be cut loose. He was restrained until enma came and cut him out therefore kinghashi's claim must be correct.

No, because his claim implies that hiruzen cant escape (or do anything for that matter) which clearly isnt the case.

Or Hashirama restrains Hiruzen and just lays 1000 punches.... that Hiruzen has no way of stopping.