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what to do you consider yourself and why?
Pro-life or Pro-choice??
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I'm pro-choice mostly for the economic reasons. Personally I'm against abortions. I wouldn't ask my girl/wife/BM to get one (at least I don't think I would) but honestly making abortions illegal would be like the death penalty for our future.
We live in an information, free trade, and technology world now. The result of that is our labor markets have become smaller in size, and more specific in the knowledge and skills required, most of which requiring an education. If we make abortions illegal then we're just going to add to our population size and that's only going to hurt us in the long run because our labor markets are naturally becoming smaller. It's the reason so many people now can't get a job even with a degree, when a degree used to almost guarantee you a job somewhere. More people means more federal aid (taxpayer aid) for more people trying to get an education and fight for the same few jobs. Which means more people without jobs. Which means higher unemployment..higher crime rates.....and you can see where I'm going with this.
Really I feel like the only reason abortions have become such a huge issue in the past 8 years or so is because of China and how Americans view their "population control" rules such as only having one child and favoring sons. But just because China might not be going about it the right way doesn't mean that population size isn't an important thing to monitor. Like I said I personally don't like the idea of abortions, but allowing people to make the choice for themselves is the best way to go about the situation without actually implementing control procedures that can and will spiral out of control.
Trust me a lot of the same people who are "pro-life" are also some of the same people who complain about the amount of poor uneducated people on social benefits, how they shouldn't get a living wage for lower-skilled jobs that are honestly decreasing more and more every year, and how they should go to school to get an education and learn new skills. What do you think having an anti-abortion law is going to do to number of those people? Bottom line, before agreeing to take in a new person, you better make sure you can take care of them or they can take care of themselves. It's one of the main considerations people who think about when choosing to abort a child
We live in an information, free trade, and technology world now. The result of that is our labor markets have become smaller in size, and more specific in the knowledge and skills required, most of which requiring an education. If we make abortions illegal then we're just going to add to our population size and that's only going to hurt us in the long run because our labor markets are naturally becoming smaller. It's the reason so many people now can't get a job even with a degree, when a degree used to almost guarantee you a job somewhere. More people means more federal aid (taxpayer aid) for more people trying to get an education and fight for the same few jobs. Which means more people without jobs. Which means higher unemployment..higher crime rates.....and you can see where I'm going with this.
Really I feel like the only reason abortions have become such a huge issue in the past 8 years or so is because of China and how Americans view their "population control" rules such as only having one child and favoring sons. But just because China might not be going about it the right way doesn't mean that population size isn't an important thing to monitor. Like I said I personally don't like the idea of abortions, but allowing people to make the choice for themselves is the best way to go about the situation without actually implementing control procedures that can and will spiral out of control.
Trust me a lot of the same people who are "pro-life" are also some of the same people who complain about the amount of poor uneducated people on social benefits, how they shouldn't get a living wage for lower-skilled jobs that are honestly decreasing more and more every year, and how they should go to school to get an education and learn new skills. What do you think having an anti-abortion law is going to do to number of those people? Bottom line, before agreeing to take in a new person, you better make sure you can take care of them or they can take care of themselves. It's one of the main considerations people who think about when choosing to abort a child
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Can you at least define what you mean?
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While I think abortion is wrong, I'm pro-choice because the lack of a legal means of abortion simply means many women who are determined to get an abortion will have to resort to means that will put them and their unborn child at pretty big risk.
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I'm against abortion but I am pro-choice.
If people are dumb enough to consider abortion (talking about the ones who simply want one because they were not careful), then maybe they aren't fit enough to raise one anyways.
If people are dumb enough to consider abortion (talking about the ones who simply want one because they were not careful), then maybe they aren't fit enough to raise one anyways.
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Making abortion illegal simply overcomplicates the entire situation. Women will be putting themselves and their unborn child at much higher risk. Doctors or other medical professionals will put their legal freedom and licenses to practice to perform them. Abortion being legal keeps a situation from getting very messy. And very dangerous.
I dont know about that. In my country, Poland, woman can only have an abortion when she was a victim of rape or her life is in danger. Surely, there are some illegal abortions, but even if you add unofficial cases the number of procedures is still way lower than in UK, where some young women consider abortion as just another example of anticonception, which sickens me.
I think that people should be just more responsible. Try to have a baby while your wearing a condom and your partner is on the pill. Good luck with that.
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Pro choice on certain things. Abortion shouldn't be used as birth control. If your ass is grown enough to have *** you should be grown enough to accept the responsibilities/consequences that comes with it.
Amen to that. Even though Im an atheist.
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I think the bold sums up a lot problems, not just this one. People should just be more responsible, but since we don't live in a magical world where you can say "do this" and people automatically do so....it's not always a good idea to think based on what people should do. Translation: shit happens. Would be nice if people just did what they're supposed to though. Would make shit a lot easier
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Yes, we dont live in a magical world, but when I compare situation in my country where abortion is quite restricted to that of UK, I think that we are doing a better job. Basically, restrictions force some people to be more responsible, and thats a good thing.
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What about rape, poor-living conditions, immaturity, medical complications, inherited diseases, broken condoms, etc etc?
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Too bad. You have to go through 9 months of pregnancy for a baby you are going to put up for adoption.