[Theory] Princess Kaguya and Rikudou's Tribe Became the Uzumaki Clan

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Exactly what I was thinking but I just don't make threads.
 

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It only takes intuition and common sense to see that Kishimoto is purposely obscuring the relationship the Uzumakis have with the Senjus and Uchihas as being "distant blood relatives" the Uzumaki's relationship with the Uchihas has been established since 618 when the Shiki Fuujin required the Uchiha Tablet as the catalyst for the Shinigami Mask to unseal the Reaper, also, not one mention of the Uzumaki Clan during Hashirama's flashback despite the fact that he was married to one (Mito) and that the Uzumaki whirlpool symbol was integrated into the Konoha Symbol, it's so obvious Kishimoto is keeping the Uzumaki Clan in the shadows, this is it, Hagoromo and his kinsmen were the progenitor Uzumakis.

You realize that these words can't be taken 'alone' in account when making theories, right Sir Derp Obito? You need to support your statements in explicit founded proof in order to give power to these 'intuition' and 'common sense'.

I still keep eye to your theories since they are interesting and falls into the sea of possibilities that Kishimoto lends us.

But I guess you would agree if I say that, in order to limit possibilities, you also need proof to counter-argument these possibilities. So...

- 'Assuming' that the Sage had younger brothers/sisters (because it is not stated), I'd like to know which is the proof you have to claim that the Sage's kinsmen is only related to the Uzumaki Clan.

I don't want intuition or common sense as answers, I need manga facts, in order to discard these other possibilities and go on your logic with ease.
 

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Well, this sure was an interesting thread.

I wish Derp could have acted as a better debater to come up with more profound counterpoints than "I firmly believe", "I am more confident than ever", "it's so obvious", to Ethris, Draxus, Rokudaime Hokage Naruto, Raziel777, Hirudora, and Madara Rules.

Consanguinity...ROFLMFAO!!! That is a stretch, to say the least.

For all our sakes, I hope Kishi one day releases a Naruto Manga companion guide filled with his version of the NarutoVerse histories.

I don't often sit in front of a computer trolling forums, but when I do, I do it on Narutobase
 
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If the sage is from the Ootsutsuki tribe and if this tribe renames itself to Uzumaki clan, cant we consider the sage being an Uzumaki? Sure not in name and maybe one should turn it around and say the Uzumaki are Ootsutsuki.
However if one believes they are from the same tribe/clan, than we can all agree that they are blood related right?

The Senju descended from the Younger son of the sage.
That is what makes the Senju and Uzumaki distant blood relatives, cause they are both related to the sage's tribe.
It would explain why the Uzumaki masks work in combination with the Uchiha tablet.
The Uchiha descended from the Elder son of the sage. Uchiha and Uzumaki are both related to the sage's tribe.

I wouldnt be surprised if the sage handed out power to his tribe, just as Naruto is sharing Kurama's chakra to the shinobi alliance. It is not exactly the same of course, but I give the example to get the idea.
 

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nice theroy but i cant reaaly agree with it....
i mean was not a uzumaki....
 

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Sir Derp please shut up and leave NarutoBase with your dumb propaganda.

We put effort into debunking your theories and we were proven correct by Kishimoto himself.

The Sage is NOT a Uzumaki, not by appearance nor by clan name. Give up, you lost.
 

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Sir Derp please shut up and leave NarutoBase with your dumb propaganda.

We put effort into debunking your theories and we were proven correct by Kishimoto himself.

The Sage is NOT a Uzumaki, not by appearance nor by clan name. Give up, you lost.


Oi hes a Well respected member mate so back the hell off.

he makes some damn good theory's.


To the original Topic .. At Least There is tie's between the uzumaki's and the S06P.
(sealing ninjustu originated from the S06P to the uzumaki's) - (uzumaki's have always been the center of the sealing techniques) witch need further looking into anyway..
 
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Oi hes a Well respected member mate so back the hell off.

he makes some damn good theory's.


To the original Topic .. At Least There is tie's between the uzumaki's and the S06P.
(sealing ninjustu originated from the S06P to the uzumaki's) - (uzumaki's have always been the center of the sealing techniques) witch need further looking into anyway..

Exactly, and the original Fuuinjutsu of Jinchuuriki is the Uzumaki Sealing Technique.
 

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Armathyx you are being short-sighted, don't you see? this is what I've always been saying from the start, Rikudou had blood relatives, he and his kinsmen were the Pre-Ninjutsu Uzumaki Clan which became the Shinobi-Era Uzumaki Clan and adapted the name Uzumaki afterwards, now I am more confident than ever that Rikudou/Hagoromo and his people were Uzumakis aka the Progenitor Uzumakis. Lol
 

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I agree Derp.

I'm still 100% convinced that the Uzumaki bare more significance and more relation to the Sage than the Uchiha and Senju.

This seems really plausible and I believe it is correct.

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Oi hes a Well respected member mate so back the hell off.

he makes some damn good theory's.


To the original Topic .. At Least There is tie's between the uzumaki's and the S06P.
(sealing ninjustu originated from the S06P to the uzumaki's) - (uzumaki's have always been the center of the sealing techniques) witch need further looking into anyway..
He makes some damn good propaganda that's what.
 

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He makes some damn good propaganda that's what.

I'll have a good laugh when he's actually right and you look like a fool for taking an Anime theory so seriously even when the theory is well backed up with much effort involved.

You should go for a walk.
 
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Armathyx you are being short-sighted, don't you see? this is what I've always been saying from the start, Rikudou had blood relatives, he and his kinsmen were the Pre-Ninjutsu Uzumaki Clan which became the Shinobi-Era Uzumaki Clan and adapted the name Uzumaki afterwards, now I am more confident than ever that Rikudou/Hagoromo and his people were Uzumakis aka the Progenitor Uzumakis. Lol

He is the progenitor of every shinobi until proven wrong. If you don't agree, you're short-sighted. Don't you see?
 

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He is the progenitor of every shinobi until proven wrong. If you don't agree, you're short-sighted. Don't you see?

Founder of Shinobi, not Blood-Ancestor of all Shinobi.

"The Ten-Tails rampaged throughout the lands until Kaguya's son defeated and sealed the beast within himself, making him the first jinchūriki. Her son would later teach humanity the concepts of chakra, becoming revered as the Sage of the Six Paths."

Rikudou was not Adam U_U
 
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I'll have a good laugh when he's actually right and you look like a fool for taking an Anime theory so seriously even when the theory is well backed up with much effort involved.

You should go for a walk.

But I'm already right, manga proved me so last chapter :/
 

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Founder of Shinobi, not Blood-Ancestor of all Shinobi.

"The Ten-Tails rampaged throughout the lands until Kaguya's son defeated and sealed the beast within himself, making him the first jinchūriki. Her son would later teach humanity the concepts of chakra, becoming revered as the Sage of the Six Paths."

Rikudou was not Adam U_U

If you're referring to the time Obito talked about the "Founder of Shinobi" based on ViZ, well, I can't help but disagree.

How can I trust in the word of someone who watched the Rikudou tablet with MS and not EMS as Madara did?

Furthermore, the raw says otherwise. Stop manipulating language please.
 
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