I know it's a theory, I'm not complaining about him being wrong or whatever. Everyone is wrong sometimes. I dislike how he's trying to distract us from an empty theory with extra pictures and statements that we already know which add no substance to his theory.
He could have made a thread which just said. Sage's clan became Uzumaki over time. The rest is just filler to make it seem legit. I dislike people who do this.
no
the sage's chakra and the uzumaki's chakra aren't the same
the uzumaki's are known for their life-force the sage had strong life-force,physical energies,and spritual energies
naruto sucks with genjutsu
no
the sage's chakra and the uzumaki's chakra aren't the same
the uzumaki's are known for their life-force the sage had strong life-force,physical energies,and spritual energies
naruto sucks with genjutsu
The powers of the Uchiha and Senju directly came from the Juubi, I don't need to tell you that the Juubi is a gigantic Mokuton Tree and its Eye is the Sharingan.
He could have made a thread which just said. Sage's clan became Uzumaki over time. The rest is just filler to make it seem legit. I dislike people who do this.
I have specified on many occasions that Rikudou did not belong to a Shinobi-era Clan because he was the founder of Shinobi, what I have been saying from the very beginning is that his bloodline/family/tribe during the Pre-Ninjutsu Era later became the Uzumaki Clan,
Some will insist that the Uzumaki Clan descended from the Younger Son only but this isn't true because the Younger Son's descendants were specified to have been the Senjus only
This is complete bull passing off opinion as fact. Usually when you start with an ancestor, the family tree widens with each passing generation, so there can be more than one descendant per ancestor.
The powers of the Uchiha and Senju directly came from the Juubi, I don't need to tell you that the Juubi is a gigantic Mokuton Tree and its Eye is the Sharingan.
This is complete bull passing off opinion as fact. Usually when you start with an ancestor, the family tree widens with each passing generation, so there can be more than one descendant per ancestor.
I ask again are you Kishimoto, then you have the same level of credibility he does.
You aren't even presenting a counter argument, all you have are insults.
Actually part of his theory did come true, he said the body of the Senju stems from the Ten Tails, and the Ten Tails being a tree and the Senju clan being of the forest with Hashirama and his Wood Release.
Like I have said before, the Rikudou Sennin was born from a woman and had a father, unlike other's assumption that he was a god who descended into the world without relatives:
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Rikudou Sennin/Hagoromo Ootsuki's mother was a Princess:
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A princess of what during ancient times? a tribe:
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Kaguya and her tribe were probably the shamanic guardians (albeit non-ninjutsu wielders) of the God-Tree:
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That is why she had direct knowledge and access to the tree and its fruit:
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Like I've said, tribes/clans were already in existence even before the Shinobi Era:
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I believe that when Rikudou/Hagoromo Ootsuki started the Shinobi Era, he converted his and his mother's tribe members and kindred into the modern Shinobi-Era Clan.
Which became the Uzumaki Clan:
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It only proves Kushina's statement that the Uzumaki Clan were distant blood relatives, they descended not directly from Rikudou Sennin like the Senju and Uchiha but from Rikudou/Hagoromo's kindred
Some will insist that the Uzumaki Clan descended from the Younger Son only but this isn't true because the Younger Son's descendants were specified to have been the Senjus only:
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And only during a later time that the Elder and Younger Son's descendants were called the Senjus and Uchihas.
I firmly believe that Princess Kaguya/Hagoromo's Tribe were the Progenitor Uzumakis aka the first Uzumakis, they may have had the surname Ootsutsuki, but most probably during the dawn of the New Era aka Shinobi Era their Tribe became the Uzumaki Tribe.
Which only makes sense for Rikudou/Hagoromo to reincarnate himself from his own tribe kindred:
I'd like to add that Hagoromo was the first born child with chakra.
This means that Rikudou and his brothers (if he had brothers after his mother ate the fruit, they inherited chakra), then this entire family is not only the source of the Uzumaki Clan, but of every man born with chakra in their bloodline.
In other words... I think it's not sane to put so much emphasis on the Uzumaki Clan.
Do you remember the theories where I said that the Rikudou was the ancestor of the Uzumaki and the Senju? Last chapter proved that this wasn't the only case... every shinobi born with chakra matches the conclusion.
Ergo, you can say that the Rikudou's Tribe Became the Uzumaki, the Sarutobi, the Hagoromo, the Kaguya, the Nara, and specifically Rikudou became the Uchiha and the Senju.
...it's quite straightforward, since the logic was based on only one page of that manga, and you referenced the picture to that page.
PS: Quite curious that the fruit has the Uzumaki Clan pattern represented... would it be a reason to support the 'chakra pool' in their bloodline? Who knows... Every Clan has a trait related to the Juubi in the end, not only Uzumaki.
Like I have said before, the Rikudou Sennin was born from a woman and had a father, unlike other's assumption that he was a god who descended into the world without relatives:
You must be registered for see images
Rikudou Sennin/Hagoromo Ootsuki's mother was a Princess:
You must be registered for see images
A princess of what during ancient times? a tribe:
You must be registered for see images
Kaguya and her tribe were probably the shamanic guardians (albeit non-ninjutsu wielders) of the God-Tree:
You must be registered for see images
That is why she had direct knowledge and access to the tree and its fruit:
You must be registered for see images
Like I've said, tribes/clans were already in existence even before the Shinobi Era:
You must be registered for see images
I believe that when Rikudou/Hagoromo Ootsuki started the Shinobi Era, he converted his and his mother's tribe members and kindred into the modern Shinobi-Era Clan.
Which became the Uzumaki Clan:
You must be registered for see images
It only proves Kushina's statement that the Uzumaki Clan were distant blood relatives, they descended not directly from Rikudou Sennin like the Senju and Uchiha but from Rikudou/Hagoromo's kindred
Some will insist that the Uzumaki Clan descended from the Younger Son only but this isn't true because the Younger Son's descendants were specified to have been the Senjus only:
You must be registered for see images
And only during a later time that the Elder and Younger Son's descendants were called the Senjus and Uchihas.
I firmly believe that Princess Kaguya/Hagoromo's Tribe were the Progenitor Uzumakis aka the first Uzumakis, they may have had the surname Ootsutsuki, but most probably during the dawn of the New Era aka Shinobi Era their Tribe became the Uzumaki Tribe.
Which only makes sense for Rikudou/Hagoromo to reincarnate himself from his own tribe kindred:
thats funny...i tried telling you that maybe since the sage was the ancestor of all shinobi.. than maybe the sage was around before any shinobi clan. and since the uzumaki senju and uchia are shinobi clans... that meant that uzumaki clan wasnt around during the time before the sage of 6 paths. and u told me i was wrong. and that the sage was an uzumaki because he was born into the uzumaki because clans were around before the sage specifically u thought the uzumaki clan was around before the sage. and i sugested maybe the uzumaki clan was made after the sage and u didnt agree with me
seems like your just tyrign to conserve your pride considering your first theory that u were stirct about was proved wrong. nd not your switching it up so u can still take credit.
u said no to my idea of what happened and than you adopt it into part of your own thread and theory haha
But Kaguya lived in very ancient times from the dawn of civilization, tribes were the "kingdoms" of these ancient eras, and usually (if not always) tribes practice inbreeding keeping their gene pool intact.
Don't you think it's quite absurd that Rikudou/Hagoromo would convert other people/tribes into Shinobi Clans and not convert his own tribe/people into Shinobis? Obviously Rikudou/Hagoromo's tribe also became a Shinobi Clan, and what clan is that? the Uzumaki Clan.
I would agree if yet again you didn't assume that it was fact that princess was from a tribe/clan. Like I said, it could have been from a country. Egypt, Babylon are prime example of this. They are more 5000 years old you know.
Inbreeding was mostly done in royal families.
@bold I don't think that statement is true. Rikudo's time can't be that far or his story would be lost. Some people who haven't read the tablet know about him And the Uchiha/Senju clans are not that old.
I would agree if yet again you didn't assume that it was fact that princess was from a tribe/clan. Like I said, it could have been from a country. Egypt, Babylon are prime example of this. They are more 5000 years old you know.
You must understand the paradigm that Kishimoto works on, almost the majority of wars and battles in Narutoverse were engaged by clans/tribes like during Hashirama and Madara's Era, I see no reason why he would suddenly have a paradigm shift Ninjutsu or Pre-Ninjutsu Era.
You must understand the paradigm that Kishimoto works on, all major wars and battles in Narutoverse are engaged by clans/tribes, I see no reason why he would suddenly have a paradigm shift Ninjutsu or Pre-Ninjutsu Era.
