[Discussion] Prime Sengoku vs Doflamingo Law and Vergo

[Punk Hazard]

Enough Haki can prevent Law's attack from cutting you, Im pretty sure someone like Prime Sengoku has enough Haki to do that. Did you just say Law+2 toddlers>Gol D. Roger?

Did you even read? Switching personalities is a separate ability than cutting. Haki protects you from the cutting power, we don't know if it can protect you from the personality switching.

And pay attention to what I said, I said it's possible for there to be a scenario where Law and two toddlers can beat Roger by Law switching Roger's personality with one of the toddlers. I never said that's how it's gonna happen 100% of the time, or that it's likely, I said it's possible. There's also the possibility that Roger can release a massive wave of Haoshoku that'll knock Law out, or can move with enough speed to hit Law and decapitate him with one blow before he can.

 

[SSS12]

What would you say if it was Kaido vs Law, DD and Vergo? You have your answer.

 

[WoldOfFingo]

Prime Sengoku wins.

 

[sravan]

i will go with sengoku

 

[Gintõki1]

Team 2 takes this.

 

[Aømine]

La team 2 wins.

 

[ultraChalk]

How are we able to answer this? How?

 

[Punk Hazard]

How are we able to answer this? How?

Intuitive thinking, along with facts and information presented to us in the manga, along with the strengths and weaknesses of each individual character and how their abilities relate to each other and personality traits that may make them less likely or more likely to do certain things.

 

[Kαmi]

I can see team 2 winning more times than not. Only due to the convenience of Law's fruit and the cunningness behind Doflamingo's. Though if Law gets eliminated, it's a wrap. With Law, Sengoku can end up in half, a different personality, surprise attacks with Shambles. He's a good team player if he's not worn out or weakened already.

 

[WoldOfFingo]

I can see team 2 winning more times than not. Only due to the convenience of Law's fruit and the cunningness behind Doflamingo's. Though if Law gets eliminated, it's a wrap. With Law, Sengoku can end up in half, a different personality, surprise attacks with Shambles. He's a good team player if he's not worn out or weakened already.

There is a possibility Law can change personalities. It is however very unlikely he can do so with people like Sengoku. In other words people who are on the same level of power or above.

 

[Bogard]

Prime Sengoku takes this low-mid difficulty. I rate him higher than Fujitora someone Doflamingo already self admitted even with his entire family not to be sure to defeat

 

[Punk Hazard]

There is a possibility Law can change personalities. It is however very unlikely he can do so with people like Sengoku. In other words people who are on the same level of power or above.

Based on what? And there isn't a possibility, we have seen Law change personalities before.

 

[WoldOfFingo]

Bases on common sense..Can u really not grasp this?
Just the same way when I first saw the King's haki I didn't thought 'oh this can be used against admirals as well to K.O.them'

 

[Punk Hazard]

Bases on common sense..Can u really not grasp this?
Just the same way when I first saw the King's haki I didn't thought 'oh this can be used against admirals as well to K.O.them'

So it's baseless, okay. Nothing in the manga indicates for a fact that the personality switch won't affect Sengoku.

Haoshoku is a different ability than Ope Ope no Mi, it's rules and regulations don't apply.

 

[WoldOfFingo]

So the Law overrating has started I guess. whatever.
Good.. can't wait for the crap threads Law> Yonko. sigh.

 

[Punk Hazard]

So the Law overrating has started I guess. whatever.
Good.. can't wait for the crap threads Law> Yonko. sigh.

How is this overrating Law? For one, no one is saying Law will easily defeat Sengoku on his own. No one is even saying this 3 on 1 will be easy. No one has said Law>Yonko. Law doesn't have the power on the same level of theirs, but power isn't all it takes to win. Instead of making crap posts about how they'll be crap threads, actually back up what you're saying instead. You still haven't shown something solid from the manga or Oda that says Law's personality switch won't affect Sengoku If there is something that indicates that, then we'll rule it out. Until then, it's feasible.

 

[WoldOfFingo]

Changing personalities falls in to the same category as Shambles
Shambles can be countered when u have a strong enough Haki.
Common sense tells me this would be the case as well for the "personality shambles change"
Do u need a scan for every situation ? Sometimes u have to use your head.
Is it really so wrong to reason like I do ?

 

[Kαmi]

When did a strong enough Haki counter Shambles? I actually don't recall such a situation.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Changing personalities falls in to the same category as Shambles
Shambles can be countered when u have a strong enough Haki.
Common sense tells me this would be the case as well for the "personality shambles change"
Do u need a scan for every situation ? Sometimes u have to use your head.

No, the cutting ability is countered with strong Haki, not Shambles.

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Nothing indicates that Shambles follows the same principle. The fact that Law stated Radio Knife is different than his other normal cuts proves that his techniques can have separate characteristics and principles. What may be a factor of one technique, such as the cutting, may not be a factor in the other, such as Shambles. And it's not like Doflamingo doesn't know what Shambles is, his knowledge on the fruit is as great as Law's itself. Why would he just mention the cutting ability, and not "Your abilities" if Haki could counter more than one of them?

 

[WoldOfFingo]

OK I give u the benefit of the doubt until the manga proves me right.