prime naruto/sasuke vs momoshiki, DRSM madara , juubito and toneri

[Ootoriyu Jin]

Momoshiki's absorption ability is quite overrated here ,so i 'all try to draw the limitations of his jutsu based on feats .

-Momoshiki has never absorbed ninjutsu remotely ,the jutsu needs to be making contact with him or about to hit him just like preta path , that happened every time he used his jutsu (Bee's TTB ,Boruto's elemental jutsu's ,Shikamaru's Shadow ) .with that being said ,he cant just stand there and absorb everything even if this thing isn't aimed at him/making contact with him.he can't absorb naruto and sasuke avatars without contact

Momoshiki absorbing Kinshiki?

 

[Uchihakil]

Some members implying madara gets blitzed, he can't get blitzed inside susano, his PS would still be rikoudu enhanced, it would be near sasukes level, not on his level but near due to the fact that EMS madaras PS shits on EMS sasukes, and madara has shin suu senjuu, toneri has his golem, lava rock golem, shinsuu senju, two rikudou enhanced PS and someone that can warp any attack as well as someone that can absorb any attack as well as return them 2 times stronger would win IMO, and juubito for more fire power, someone was saying momo never absorbed multiple attacks at the same time, yea he did, when he absorbed the final attack that fodder scientist threw at him (though it was from the same direction) but he did absorb multiple attacks

 

[Eng nawashi]

Momoshiki absorbing Kinshiki?

That isn't a good example to prove that he can absorb ninjutsu remotely unless if you think he can absorb anyone now Lol .with that logic sasuke can absorb chakra and ninjutsu remotly because he absorbed the chakra of biju controlled by his genjutsu remotely,I guess kaguya can absorb people's chakra remotely because she absorbed the chairs of people inside IT remotely .

 

[Ootoriyu Jin]

That isn't a good example to prove that he can absorb ninjutsu remotely unless if you think he can absorb anyone now Lol .with that logic sasuke can absorb chakra and ninjutsu remotly because he absorbed the chakra of biju controlled by his genjutsu remotely,I guess kaguya can absorb people's chakra remotely because she absorbed the chairs of people inside IT remotely .

Kaguya and Sasuke didn't use PP to absorb the chakra, they use chakra manipulation on a victum under their genjutsu.

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

Wtf are you people on about? Naruto and Sasuke get eaten alive in both scenarios.

-Momoshiki's presence means that all their Ninjutsu is useless. So attempting it is pointless.
-Obito sets up the Quad Juubidama.
-Then it blows them to shit while the Gudo Dama protect his teammates.

Naruto and Sasuke won't be cutting the tree down when Momoshiki will just absorb all of their incoming attacks. If you want to argue that he can't absorb their Avatars, that's alright too. He was already wrecking the heads of Naruto and Sasuke's PS with the fodder elemental jutsu that Boruto absorbed from him. You can upscale to their full combined Avatar, but then I'd just say instead of absorbing some fodder elemental jutsu, he absorbs Madara and Obito's giant ass Katon (buffed by Hagoromo's chakra, Hashirama's Senjutsu, and Rikudo's Senjutsu) and then uses it (further bufffed) against their Avatars. They'd be demolished in a matter of minutes.

Or if Obito doesn't want to take the chance, Momoshiki simply absorbs one of the Bijuu Dama and then fires it back at the duo and blows them to high hell. If they neglect to use their Avatars in feat that Momoshiki will absorb them, and focus on Taijutsu like they did in the first half of their match, they get murked by the combined might of Momoshiki, Kakashi (in S2), Obito, Madara and Toneri, who can all use their own Ninjutsu.

And there's more, but it should be obvious that they get boned.

Uhh. Doesn't ninjutsu have to be directed at momoshiki for him to absorb it. He absorbs them through his hands. He can't just negate all ninjutsu regardless of who its thrown at or where.

Team 2 has a lot of firepower. Especially if momoshiki "buffs up" their tech up. But Sasuke can switch places with any one of them. I doubt any one of them could tank a momoshiki enhanced juubito tech.

Anyways. OP, if this isnt fused momoshiki then team 1 wins. Else, I'll go with team 2 in the long run.

 

[KidGamer65]

Uhh. Doesn't ninjutsu have to be directed at momoshiki for him to absorb it. He absorbs them through his hands. He can't just negate all ninjutsu regardless of who its thrown at or where.

Team 2 has a lot of firepower. Especially if momoshiki "buffs up" their tech up. But Sasuke can switch places with any one of them. I doubt any one of them could tank a momoshiki enhanced juubito tech.

Anyways. OP, if this isnt fused momoshiki then team 1 wins. Else, I'll go with team 2 in the long run.

I never said that he can nor did he say that he won't be intercepting their Ninjutsu. :lol Not sure why you people seem to believe that I did. Sasuke can switch places, sure, but eventually he'll run out of people to switch with or his cooldown will set in, then Momoshiki kills him since he doesn't need Obito, Toneri or Madara's help to kill them after he's absorbed enough of their jutsu to last.

 

[BLAZE]

Kaguya and Sasuke didn't use PP to absorb the chakra, they use chakra manipulation on a victum under their genjutsu.

didn't sasuke used Gedo
i meam he didn't have contact with bijuus or CT orbs

i mean the handseals

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[Eng nawashi]

Kaguya and Sasuke didn't use PP to absorb the chakra, they use chakra manipulation on a victum under their genjutsu.

That isnt my point ,my point is that momoshiki absorbing kinshiki is a special case that cant be used as a reference (since he cant absorb people in normal cases Lol )just like how sasuke absorbing biju chakra remotely is a special case and like how kaguya absorbing IT people is a special case .

 

[Ootoriyu Jin]

didn't sasuke used Gedo
i meam he didn't have contact with bijuus or CT orbs

i mean the handseals

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wasn't my point.

That isnt my point ,my point is that momoshiki absorbing kinshiki is a special case that cant be used as a reference (since he cant absorb people in normal cases Lol )just like how sasuke absorbing biju chakra remotely is a special case and like how kaguya absorbing IT people is a special case .

and my point was everytime Sasuke or Kaguya absorbed any chakra without direct contact was when the victim was under their control via Genjutsu so unless Sasuke uses Genjutsu he won't be able to absorb it remotely.

 

[Ootoriyu Jin]

Except Madara is not doing anything but getting shit blitz by a bushin so no.

Madara doesn't need to to get shit blitz when Team 2 is all grouped up.
- Momoshiki reacts to Ameno blitz like in canon and absorb Sasuke bushin since Momoshiki Rinnegan already shown that it has decent range.

Still not understanding what your talking about sir are you illiterate or something? I.T could literally only be broken with another rinnegan user present (Sasuke) and that's how it was broken. Partner method is not happening especially when a clone could simply look at him then its game it could control him to fight anyone who's trying to break him free your just knock his ass out.

So your assumption that the partner method won't work is based on nothing and it takes seconds to broken out like-wise using partner method and if Sasuke still gets the coreless CT off on Kakashi and Toneri, PS swing and Golden Wheel reincarnation slash breaks them out since none of them are under Genjutsu.

Coreless CT is useless without the help of Genjutsu.

How? Why? give your reasons or sit down.




Nothing is fanfic not a wanker just a logically thinker. Not an ego im just saying who are you again?

@bold Why would that even matter?

Yeup preta being buffed by rikudou chakra means it can absorb more jutsu Except Momoshiki can only absorb with 1 hand which he needs up at all times.


It takes a single glance they are getting 1 shotted. Smh now this fool using that katon shit that kidgamer was talking about Momoshiki gets his ass splattered by shira tensei or his body becomes the core of Chibaku tensei crushing him to pierces all his moves are dodged,tanked,absorbed. Shira tensei is instant their not blasting shit and sorry Momoshiki rinnegan cannot do anything but absorb its virtually useless outside of that Lol @Madara's shira tensei even being a factor to Adult Sasuke's rikudou buffed shira tensei.

The bold has been addressed. no Momoshiki counters with his own Shinra Tensei unless you want to argue that Momoshiki who has the Rinnegan doesn't have the other 6 paths. Momoshiki's Shinju Stump slice gets him out of CT.

- Sasuke blitz isn't getting pass 4 Limbos, Shinra Tensei and PS even if it's not as strong.

Even in your made up situation where team 2 splits,
- While Sasuke goes to deal with Madara and the rest, Momoshiki goes and kills Naruto in CQC.
- then the rest of the team butt fcks Sasuke.

 

[Eng nawashi]

wasn't my point.




and my point was everytime Sasuke or Kaguya absorbed any chakra without direct contact was when the victim was under their control via Genjutsu so unless Sasuke uses Genjutsu he won't be able to absorb it remotely.

And my point is that if he had been anyone else besides kinshiki ,Momoshiki wouldnt have been able to absorb him .that is where your argument fails .
If he can absorb ninjutsu remotely.he would have absorbed naruto super odoma rasengan while he was still charging it .they didn't even worry about him absorbing it while still charging it .but they had to destroy his rinnegan before hitting him with it in close range .

 

[Ootoriyu Jin]

And my point is that if he had been anyone else besides kinshiki ,Momoshiki wouldnt have been able to absorb him .that is where your argument fails .
If he can absorb ninjutsu remotely.he would have absorbed naruto super odoma rasengan while he was still charging it .they didn't even worry about him absorbing it while still charging it .but they had to destroy his rinnegan before hitting him with it in close range .

I didn't mean he could absorb chakra "remotely" at any range but instead it has "some" range and it doesn't need direct contact, that was my point. Plus Naruto was simpily to far away.

 

[Eng nawashi]

I didn't mean he could absorb chakra "remotely" at any range but instead it has "some" range and it doesn't need direct contact, that was my point. Plus Naruto was simpily to far away.

That is your opinion but it is an assumption IMO ,and even if that was true ,it would be short range ,5m at max.

 

[Ootoriyu Jin]

That is your opinion but it is an assumption IMO ,and even if that was true ,it would be short range ,5m at max.

Yeh, the distance between Momoshiki and Kinshiki when he got absorbed.