[VS] Prime Minato vs Prime Nagato

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It wasn't of my intention to do it, I don't have any interest in this match-up, especially because of the Minato fanboys here, I was just pointing that out before people started saying that Minato's Senjutsu turns Nagato to stone, other than that the match-up is the same.



That's the only way Minato could win this fight, and even that isn't an option. All of the stuff you listed gets countered thhe same way he counters Minato's base arsenal, nothing actually changes.

Hmmm

Well heres what I think of this mess.

His animal path abilities are stalled off fighting Gamabunta and the toad battalion somewhere or he loses control of them via Minato's Contract Seal. Now considering these animals have no know place of origin I think if he puts the seal on Nagato they would just poof away rather than just him loosing control, I mean they aren't Kurama or some type of beast that has no place to go. Now he can no longer summon. If he summons Gedo Mazo that buts both of them in danger because the Contract Seal will render such a large and powerful thing uncontrollable so is not a reliable move to use altogether. Just what I think but I can be wrong.

His Preta Path abilities would serve no purpose considering Minato will be coming at him via FTG and he won't be able to activate the ability in time enough to stop lets say.....RasenShuriken, or any other large variants of Rasengan SM Minato can use on him. Not to mention while absorbing 1 technique is will be vulnerable to all other physical techniques, like a cut to his carotid artery..... just saying.

The Asura Path is useless, the missiles are all dodged or the big laser blasts will be redirected at him via FTG Barrier.

The Human Path is useless, he will never fully get a hold of Minato.

The Naraka Path is useless, it bring people back to life and he cant bring back himself if he is dead.

Now the Deva Path, this could pose as a semi-problem but it still ends up being useless.

Universal Pull is useless, Minato just jumps to a different location. Almighty Push could be a semi problem for a bit but just as Sage Naruto countered its affects with a couple dozen clones, Minato can do the same. Chibaku Tensei is the only jutsu Nagato has that can cause some problems for Minato but still, a semi-problem only. If Minato does not throw a Kunai to it before it gets surrounded with much debris and uses Rasenshuriken to destroy it, he makes clones who also use Rasenshurikens to generate enough power to do so. Even if he gets trapped inside the sphere, which does not necessarily kill the trapped person, he can be in SM and tank the pressure for a while because of his increases physical abilities then teleport out of it.

Thats just what I think. Tell me how Nagato wins, if you will.
 
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Minato wins high difficulty. I'm actually down for debating this, VM or reply if interested.
 

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How is Minato using multiple Rasenshuriken's with clones? Nardo can manage two when his mode runs out, and that's even with his Uzumaki reserves.

Nagato used BT on naruto and a boulder in the same timeframe. For all intents and purposes he can spam the deva path.
 

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How is Minato using multiple Rasenshuriken's with clones? Nardo can manage two when his mode runs out, and that's even with his Uzumaki reserves.

Nagato used BT on naruto and a boulder in the same timeframe. For all intents and purposes he can spam the deva path.

Ma and Pa can be on his shoulders giving him chakra always. The only reason they did not do this with Naruto was because Kurama was kicking them out of his chakra network. They were going to do this with Naruto and they tried until what I just said happened.
 

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How is Minato using multiple Rasenshuriken's with clones? Nardo can manage two when his mode runs out, and that's even with his Uzumaki reserves.

Nagato used BT on naruto and a boulder in the same timeframe. For all intents and purposes he can spam the deva path.
Naruto needs 2 clones for his rasenshuriken, so while creating them he already splits his sage chakra in 3(with the original). The advantage Minato has is that he doesn't need to split his chakra to create these chakra spheres. Besides in the war, a tired SM Naruto actually managed to create 3 in a row [ ][ ] (so with a sage chakra split in 9 parties). It all comes down to the amount of sage chakra absorbed. On the other side, Minato would have only needed 2 clones to realise a similar feat
 

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Naruto needs 2 clones for his rasenshuriken, so while creating them he already splits his sage chakra in 3(with the original). The advantage Minato has is that he doesn't need to split his chakra to create these chakra spheres. Besides in the war, a tired SM Naruto actually managed to create 3 in a row [ ][ ] (so with a sage chakra split in 9 parties). It all comes down to the amount of sage chakra absorbed. On the other side, Minato would have only needed 2 clones to realise a similar feat

You need to check your sources. Pretty sure this is around the point Kurama started loaning Naruto his chakra, like when he made thousands exclusively from Kurama's chakra to counter Madara's Mokuton. You can even see how exhausted naruto is in the second scan.

But it's of no real concequence; Nagato can easily dodge if Pain can.
 

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So you really think SM makes no difference here [ ] [ ] ? I'll add more details in OP

Except physical strength (in case of CQC)nothing from SM can help Minato against Rinnegan.Minato can counter anything Nagato can offer except ST and nothing Minato gains from SM can help him to counter ST which is why Nagato wins this.jutsu that are made up of chakra are pretty much useless against Nagato and Rasengan is more effective than FRS against Nagato as Minato only chance is 5 sec intervsl of tendo so Minato's attack must be fast enough to cover that 5 sec interval and Minato needs to hit Nagato b4 he could activate Nagato which is near impossible even for combo of FTG and Rasengan. Minato might get a chance to hit Nagato b4 he can activate preta but with FRS it is clearly as good as impossible.

Aside from PS,SM can't help him much in this match IMO.As I said b4 With intel Nagato clearly wins this battle except for the case when the starting distance is less.Without intel Minato wins this more times than not IMO.If Nagato has no intel then he'd try one of these following methods to attack Minato which would result in his downfall.

  • Banshou tenin followed by physical attacks like this. [ ][ ]
  • Banshou tenin followed by attacks with weapons.[ ] [ ]
  • Banshou tenin/Summon followed by human path. [ ]
  • If Nagato won't send him long enough distance with ST then this would happen. [ ] [ ]
If Nagato tries to use any of those attacks then he is as good as dead.Nagato's only options for winning against Minato is out lasting him or using massive ST.Summons are pretty much useless as they can't land a hit on Minato,CT gets countered via S/T barrier.
  • With intel : Nagato wins.
  • Without intel: Minato has his chances.
  • Overall:Nagato is superior.
 
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Nagato wins this mid/high diff,,

-Minato having no intel on Nagatos abilities is infact worse for him rather than Nagato,, as with the starting distance of 50m,, and nagato being a profound sensor,,, he would have the ability to react to Minatos foot speed,,,

-Its IC for Nagato to use ST on his opponents and through that he can repel all the kunai away from him thus making it difficudlt for minato to mark him,, as well as hindering the use of his FTG,,,,Not only that but a casual ST from crippled nagato destroyed an entire forest,,,, a concentrated one from point blank range would be fatal for Minato,,

-None of the sensors have been able to sense deva path abilities such as BT/ST/RH,, and Minato wont be able to do so as well,, furthermore ST is near instant,,and would be quite troublesome for Minato,,, Nagato can also use his summons along wiith asura missiles,, and ST to cover a large enough AOE which will make it impossible for Minato to effectively evade his attacks,,,

-Nagato can wear Asura armor which will give him the defenses as well as assist him in his mobility,, and will allow him to tank Minatos FTG kunai based attacks,,,, His preta is also absorbing all the attacks from Minato,,, including FRS which was canoncially absorbed by only a puppet,,,,,

-Minatos summons are all non factor,, including the big 3 boss toads,, as they are getting one shotted by one ST from Nagato at point blank range jus like they did in canon,,,,His SM isnt playing much of a role here since Minato would have to close the distance and that will leave him open for an ST,, and considering that his mastery is like Pein arc narutos,, then the time limit also hurts him here,,,

-Nagatos multiple summons such as cerebrus and chameleon can be good diversions for him to land attacks on Minato,, not only that but he can be on top of bird,, as this will give him flight and prevent him from getting attacked by Minato,, His FRS would also be easily absorbed by Preta,, or repelled by Deva

-CQC infact would be dangerous for Minato,,,due to chakra rods,, ningendo and shurados extra limbs that allowed nagato to overwhelm 2 perfect jins (each having comparable CQC skills to Minato) whilst being immobile,,,

-Nagatos boss sized ST is seriously hurting minato here,, not only that but Nagato has several diversions which can eliminate Minatos KB,,and his constant attacks will bypasss the limits of minatos FTG,,, His Armor being able to tank physical attacks and preta being able to nullify ninjutsu is one of the main reasons why nagato wins this,,,

-As for CT,,, No,, Minato doesnt have any counters to it,,, he does not have the chakra levels of naruto to create 2 KB and fire 3 FRS straight towards the orb,, his kunais and marked areas are getting pulled up as he simply doesnt have the firepower to destroy the orb,, neither does he have the durability to tank it,,,
 

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No need for SM Minato, Alive Base Minato is more than enough to beat Prime-Mobile Nagato U_U

 

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I believe Nagato would win , but it would probably be at a high difficult.

The only advantage Minato has is intelligence , and speed . But, even so Nagato intelligence level isn't that far beneath Minato though. Nagato with his visual justu , and controls space it can negate speed . Also, his ninjustu is far greater than Minato its not debatable. On top of that Nagato chakra is larger than Minato.

Simply put Nagato kick Minato ass
 

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Omg this is killing me. Rofl. Minato isnt even being used right. And then. The nagato supporters are limiting him... lollll
 

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MInato FTG stomps. Pain was able to only keep up with 6tailed naruto transformation barely.
 

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SM Minato along with ma and pa will win this

Even Base Minato has his chances

Lol....at people who are saying minato can't counter Shinra Tensei.
>>>>For using ST interval is 5 sec
>>>>A large scale ST will be easily avoided by Minato's FTG Range
>>>>A small scale ST will not do any good
>>>>Minato throws kunai and Nagato uses ST>>>Minato teleports to that kunai and Blitz him

This will happen

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Minato wins considering FRS. This would mean that while Preta is absorbing FRS, Minato could simply FTG to it because he has already stated he can FTG to anything containing his own chakra. Minato's power up are too much in this thread.
 

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Fanfic at it's finest...

OT- Nagato wins high difficulty...
 

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Minato wins considering FRS. This would mean that while Preta is absorbing FRS, Minato could simply FTG to it because he has already stated he can FTG to anything containing his own chakra. Minato's power up are too much in this thread.
A seal. You can teleport with anything connected to your chakra, but you can't teleport to something connected to your chakra.

Manga's established you need a seal.

Nagato wins this. He's displayed the ability to use Almighty Push/Pull consecutively [ ] so the 5 second time limit doesn't apply to Nagato. Plus, he's shown the ability to use Almighty Push on a single point, kinda like how we thought Limbo: Hengoku worked [ ]. Overall, Nagato's Deva Path powers are much stronger than Deva Path's powers in the Six Paths of Pain. Not to mention he can use all his other Paths in one body.
 

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Base minato takes it... SM isn't needed...
 

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Giving him same mode mastery and frs? wouldn't it be easier to just say naruto with ftg vs nagato?
 

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A seal. You can teleport with anything connected to your chakra, but you can't teleport to something connected to your chakra.
Good point man but Tobirama didn't knew about Minato's seal on Naruto and he only knew that their chakra is linked with eachother but still he questioned Minato if he can teleport to Naruto which suggests that it is possible to teleport to something that was connected your chakra though I don't think teleporting to the location of a jutsu just is possible because it has their chakra in it.
 
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hmmm with all these conditions, Minato obviously wins..
 
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