Prime Hiruzen Question.

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I just can't take it anymore.

People continue to state that he mastered every jutsu in the village.

People Continously say things like he mastered: Ftg, Edo tensei, and Rasengan and way more.

I had an explanation why (I'm not saying I support him but just trying to make things more believable but still) he couldn't use jutsu such as Susano'o, Use bugs as the aburame, expand, use wood style.

He may not be able to because those are special clans and they are only able to be used by clan members.


But that leaves Edo Tensei, and Rasengan and a lot more jutsu.

Do you really believe he managed to master all of them because I just can't.

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unless shown using them i dont believe we know kakashi can use rasengan because we have seen it howeveer i still believe hiruzen is a top 10 shinoobi
 

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I just can't take it anymore.

People continue to state that he mastered every jutsu in the village.

People Continously say things like he mastered: Ftg, Edo tensei, and Rasengan and way more.

I had an explanation why (I'm not saying I support him but just trying to make things more believable but still) he couldn't use jutsu such as Susano'o, Use bugs as the aburame, expand, use wood style.

He may not be able to because those are special clans and they are only able to be used by clan members.


But that leaves Edo Tensei, and Rasengan and a lot more jutsu.

Do you really believe he managed to master all of them because I just can't.
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If he really mastered all of this... we would have seen it in the war by now..
EDIT:it's true he may have mastered alot of jutsu, but not all of it.

Fanboys and their theories....
This is true.
 

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I'm not sure. He obviously had a vast arsenal of Jutsu, but he hasn't shown Hiraishin or Edo Tensei so he might not use them. He probably does know how they work, though. Him using all 5 Elements lends credability to him knowing all the jutsu in the leaf :F

I believe that Hiruzen was a lot stronger than most people give him credit for, but he wasn't at the level of Gods, such as let's say a Juubi Jin. As a genuine Hiruzen fan, i'd say that he was on the same level as Tobirama and Minato, but Hashirama is one level above them all.
 

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Of course he can, he just hasnt shown it but he can, why do you think he mastered 5 elements. Just like how we didnt know Minato had sage mode. But "he knew every jutsu" is a mangafact
 

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I'm not sure. He obviously had a vast arsenal of Jutsu, but he hasn't shown Hiraishin or Edo Tensei so he might not use them. He probably does know how they work, though. Him using all 5 Elements lends credability to him knowing all the jutsu in the leaf :F

I believe that Hiruzen was a lot stronger than most people give him credit for, but he wasn't at the level of Gods, such as let's say a Juubi Jin. As a genuine Hiruzen fan, i'd say that he was on the same level as Tobirama and Minato, but Hashirama is one level above them all.
I have to agree consider Hashirama powers was a fairytale.
 

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Who said he used susanoo? No i have to set you straight buddy, he has mastered every non Kekkei Genkei, hereditary. Jut because he has mastered certain jutsu's doesn't mean he is the strongest one using them. :|


#Hiruzen 5
 

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I agree with the post above me. All non Kekkei Genkai make sense.

I'm sure the hype is true when its relevant to the majority of the characters in NV. Instead of comparing him to Sasuke, Naruto, and other legends compare him to most of the characters that are on a less of a godlike level.
 

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he knows all the jutsu in the village that's where his hype comes from. just because he didn't use a particular jutsu doesn't mean he doesn't know it. it just like the reaper death seal he used it cause the situation required it. just like when the alliance got hit by 5 different natures he countered it with the same jutsu cause the situation required it. remember the jutsu is as strong as the wielder. a example is with sasuke fight with danzo sasuke used a regular Genjutsu: Sharingan move but because of how he used it and the situation it almost killed danzo. and left him unable to move for a bit. also how naruto used his rasengan to hit 3rd raikages hand to pierce himself. the 3rd hokage is a legend because of his use of jutsu and how he displays them in combat. you should know the 3rd will show us what he is made of if kishi gives him more screen time.
 
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