Prime Hashirama vs prime Naruto

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The link doesn't work .I hope you aren't trying to bring some scans for pre RSM Naruto 's RS .

Course not.
I'm talking about the 9 Chou Biju Rasen-Shurike he used on Kaguya. Each RS created explosion that didn't seem at all bigger than his pre RSM FRS.
 

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Oh, forgive me. I tend to downplay Naruto. But yep I agree. RSM Naruto totally destroys SS. But it doesn't change the fact that Hashi's SS might possibly the biggest adversary in Hashi's arsena for Naruto.

That would be emergency bloom forest tree. Naruto's biju bomb fire power is actually too much for shinsusenjuu. It's just a matter of increasing the velocity of his biju bomb first so it can detonate upon contact (prevent redirection).

With the emergency forest hashirama can use escape art in the terrain better while making his laughing Buddha hold down naruto's limbs a lot better.
 

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That would be emergency bloom forest tree. Naruto's biju bomb fire power is actually too much for shinsusenjuu. It's just a matter of increasing the velocity of his biju bomb first so it can detonate upon contact (prevent redirection).

With the emergency forest hashirama can use escape art in the terrain better while making his laughing Buddha hold down naruto's limbs a lot better.

I guess you're right.
 

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Course not.
I'm talking about the 9 Chou Biju Rasen-Shurike he used on Kaguya. Each RS created explosion that didn't seem at all bigger than his pre RSM FRS.
Can you just tell me how did you come up with the conclusion that these explosions aren't bigger than his previous RS !?because there is literally nothing that can help us determining the size of their explosion except the curvature of Kaguya's planet.
 

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Can you just tell me how did you come up with the conclusion that these explosions aren't bigger than his previous RS !?because there is literally nothing that can help us determining the size of their explosion except the curvature of Kaguya's planet.

Well normal FRS creates a Biju size sphere, right ?
I'd put any TBB from a full bijuu above RSM TBB. So despite the boost in power, his FRS shouldn't be bigger than a mountain now.
Planet curvature ? hopefully you aren't implying that those FRS explosion is that big.
 

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Well normal FRS creates a Biju size sphere, right ?
I'd put any TBB from a full bijuu above RSM TBB. So despite the boost in power, his FRS shouldn't be bigger than a mountain now.
Planet curvature ? hopefully you aren't implying that those FRS explosion is that big.

Yeah but these arent normal RS .they are boosted with RSM and Rikudo senjutsu chakra so they are obviously so much stronger than before not just a little bigger.the explosion of toad SM Naruto's RS is around the size of biju as shown against Kuarma which means the explosion of RSM Naruto's RS would be so much bigger than biju .and I am speaking about the regular sized one not the odoma and Chou odoma RS Naruto used against Kaguya and Madara .but yeah I don't think his regular sized RS would be any bigger than Juibi sized mountains.
What do you mean with the bold.
 

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Yeah but these arent normal RS .they are boosted with RSM and Rikudo senjutsu chakra so they are obviously so much stronger than before not just a little bigger.the explosion of toad SM Naruto's RS is around the size of biju as shown against Kuarma which means the explosion of RSM Naruto's RS would be so much bigger than biju .and I am speaking about the regular sized one not the odoma and Chou odoma RS Naruto used against Kaguya and Madara .but yeah I don't think his regular sized RS would be any bigger than Juibi sized mountains.
What do you mean with the bold.

Shit ! I ****ed up, I mean I'd put any TBB from a Bijuu above any FRS from RSM Naruto.
As for the size of his FRS, with the rikudo boost it should be more potent and I understand that, but more AoE ? I have to say no.
Unless we talk Gargantuan FRS.
 

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I'm referring to the 9 RS w/Bijuu elements he used against Kaguya.
Not only was the LRS explosion far far smaller and it didn't create the huge shockwave that original LRS produced against the God tree, but each RS created an explosion of the same size. And since there was a regular FRS among them, LRS was equal to FRS, and FRS at best creates a Bijuu size explosion.

You can't even accurately tell how large those are let alone say that they are the same as regular SM FRS.

What's even worse is that you are blatantly ignoring the fact that the YRS Naruto used on Madara was Chou Oodama sized meanwhile this one was only regularly sized, so it doesn't even matter. "Chou Oodama" YRS creates an explosion wide and powerful enough to cut the Shinju in half. That's without Bijuu cloak or mass Nature Energy. We've already seen Naruto use FRS with his Avatar after gathering NE.

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Naruto would nuke Hashirama to oblivion with two of these. One YRS and one regular and it's over. Even without the mass NE a few Avatar YRS would be enough to wipe SS and Hashi off the face of the planet.
 
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You can't even accurately tell how large those are let alone say that they are the same as regular SM FRS.

What's even worse is that you are blatantly ignoring the fact that the YRS Naruto used on Madara was Chou Oodama sized meanwhile this one was only regularly sized, so it doesn't even matter. "Chou Oodama" YRS creates an explosion wide and powerful enough to cut the Shinju in half. That's without Bijuu cloak or mass Nature Energy. We've already seen Naruto use FRS with his Avatar after gathering NE.

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Naruto would nuke Hashirama to oblivion with two of these. One YRS and one regular and it's over. Even without the mass NE a few Avatar YRS would be enough to wipe SS and Hashi off the face of the planet.

Ok Ok you won, I guess I didn't take into consideration the size difference, though he could always expand that small LRS after launching it, but we have no reason to assume that so meh ...
One last thing, would a gargantuan FRS made in humanoid RSM be as powerful as one made in avatar Mode ? (w/o the mass NE I mean)
 

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Shit ! I ****ed up, I mean I'd put any TBB from a Bijuu above any FRS from RSM Naruto.
As for the size of his FRS, with the rikudo boost it should be more potent and I understand that, but more AoE ? I have to say no.
Unless we talk Gargantuan FRS.


Yeah Standard TTB is is most likely stronger than single standard RSM FRS .
RS or TTB boosted with more potent chakra would have a bigger explosion than regular RS or regular TTB of the same size .
 

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Yeah Standard TTB is is most likely stronger than single standard RSM FRS .
RS or TTB boosted with more potent chakra would have a bigger explosion than regular RS or regular TTB of the same size .

Eh, I honestly don't know anymore, given Kishi's wank for Naruto his RS could be as powerful as a Cho Biju Dama, who knows.
 

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Naruto blitzes him. Power won't even matter if he can't keep up with naruto's speed. Kaguya failed to react to his top speed. Hashirama might as well get one shotted.
 

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Ok Ok you won, I guess I didn't take into consideration the size difference, though he could always expand that small LRS after launching it, but we have no reason to assume that so meh ...
One last thing, would a gargantuan FRS made in humanoid RSM be as powerful as one made in avatar Mode ? (w/o the mass NE I mean)

If he made it bigger in human form than it would be in avatar form then yeah, but he can't.
 

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Naruto 1 shots BDFRS size encompass SS thus game.

Naruto stomps
 
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