[Discussion] Prime Chinjao vs Prime Kyros
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We know for a fact that he trained Rebecca in observation while in a toy state(so with handicap), enough for her to remain unharmed after countless battles and partially dodge 1/20 of Hakuba's speed. Himself hinting at his godlike observations on many occasions by calling other people's attacks "too slow" still in his toy state, hence his nickname of thunder soldier. So we at least know his observation must have been godlike, especially since after 3,000 new world battles, he didn't receive so much as a scratch on him. Not sure about his armament though
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Couldn't react to doffy really luffy had to save him wasn't chinjao on garp level somewhere below ???
Yeah let's wank Doffy some more ignoring the fact he stated himself it only happened because he let his guard down for a moment, just like you ignore the fact that while being focus, he made this same Doffy worry on 2 occasions(the first time being saved by Sugar and the second time with his clone being unable to react)
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It was his clone not himself and tbh I dnt think doffy has good observation I like the theory tht he's blind in one eye etc lol but thus just me
Doffy has out menovered a lot of ppl who I feel has higher observation then kudos (well not a lot) but law and luffy feel have higher law reacting to overheat and luffy dodging bullets as well as sanji and perhaps smoker but doubt tht part..
He trained Rebecca big whoop she didn't get hit by fodder all her life once she actually fought ppl with names in story she gradually became more of wimp... So training his daughter who just acts like a dansil isn't much of accomplishment
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Destructive power isn't everything. Kyros is superior to him in speed and observation and considering his thunder slash is also really powerful(overpowering Diamante's small hill length slash), a few hits could be enough to finish Chinjao without needing more powerful moves. Old Lao G had pitful destructive power, but he put Chinjao on his knees after a moment(though Chinjao was sick, you'll say, but you get the point)
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Kyros was undefeated in an arena full of fodders. I don't see his feats that impressive. Specially when you put it him next to a guy who gave Garp some trouble. Diamente's moon split was pitiful compared to what Chinjao did in Ice continent.
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I highly doubt someone that could clash with Garp is gonna be defeated by Kyros. From the way it looks, Garp never really KOd Chinjao or anything like that, Chinjao just had a breakdown and lost his will to continue fighting Garp until his rage developed when he couldn't crack the ice.
Of course, I might be misremembering. If so, it'd be awesome if you could show me what's really what, cuz I have this strange feeling Chinjao was knocked out.
Of course, I might be misremembering. If so, it'd be awesome if you could show me what's really what, cuz I have this strange feeling Chinjao was knocked out.
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You don't find them impressive because you only look at the destructive scale of attacks while disregarding base stats like speed, observation where Kyros completely outclass Chinjao. Even on one leg, he outsped Luffy on his way to the palace by a considerable distance, made Doffy worry on 2 occasions, trained a weakling like Rebecca's observation to the point she could partially react to 1/20 of Hakuba's speed(something only Sabo could do in the arena), so let alone the greatness of his own observation. Like i've said as well, Kyros doesn't need Chinjao level destructive power to finish him. His slash was powerful enough to finish or at least cripple Chinjao after a few attempts. Old Lao G's weak legs were enough to wear him out after a few moment. And considering he is the faster opponent, landing hits will be easier for him
We also have no idea whether they were fodders or not. The competition was taking place in the new world, where only high level new world combattant usually decide to participate. Not to mention he also had the hype to be the strongest fighter in the history of the corrida(so not only in his life time) and we talk about something that existing in the new world even decades ago. Kyros is also someone who was hyped to be capable to take down even Doffy if he had his real body
Also, Garp's only trouble was to overpower the strength of his head. It's not like they were fighting against each other, in which case Garp would have obviously stomped him considering you don't need to overpower his head to defeat him
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He outsped a base luffy, while Chinjao on his old self was fighting G2 Luffy.
You have Chinjao in his prime. Why are you bringing his feats in his fight with Lao G? Nothing short of Garp's punching power would do a thing to prime chinajo's head.
They were fodders by New World standards.
I agree with the last sentence.
By portrayal it shouuld be Kyros > Chinjao IMO.
But I think Chinjao won't go down that easy. Hell, he might even win. He is someone who fought Garp in his prime after all. v_v
Actually, I am leaning more towards Prime Chinjao.
But I think Chinjao won't go down that easy. Hell, he might even win. He is someone who fought Garp in his prime after all. v_v
Actually, I am leaning more towards Prime Chinjao.
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Hard to say really. Not much of an objective platform for comparison. I get the feeling prime chinjao would win (even though I a bit of a kyros fan boy) just because we've seen his power and losing to garp doesn't make someone a pushover. Kyros hasnt shown the kind of brute force CoA haki to best a prime chinjao and I don't think you can beat him without that. That's not even to go into the CoC haki debate which chinjao has enough to clash with luffy and again kyros shows no signs of.