Pretty rough idea of tobirama / 2nd ?

[FlyingThunderGodHax]

I think tobiramas similar to hashirama with mokuton , but with water.

Hes got kisame/bijuu chakara levels (whether hes better than kisame with water i don't know but hes regarded as the best suiton user in the manga however he hasn't had any screen time to prove it)

and s/t techniques + edo tensei
( i know we haven't got any info on who he could summon but he still had edo tensei or at least a prototype) .

I know your probably saying he lost too 20 ANBU/Joinin level ninjas. But the answer is either major plot hole or tobirama faked his death and has something to do with tobi.

He also has senju/sage dna and usually characters with sage dna are formidable excluding fodder clan members who haven't been stated but regardless any senju are above average shinobi.

just my opinion.
peace :scorps:

 

[Gatsuuga]

Agreed I think that Tobirama was probably a beast just like his brother, yet we just never see anything about him. Could kishi just be trolling or is there a reason, we will have t wait and find out.

 

[FlyingThunderGodHax]

Agreed I think that Tobirama was probably a beast just like his brother, yet we just never see anything about him. Could kishi just be trolling or is there a reason, we will have t wait and find out.

yeah kishi's trolling him . But who knows maybe hes saving him for some major plot twist. tobirama = tobi im just sayin

 

[Eastin]

Well point is that tobirama got summoned by oro vs 3rd so he cant be tobi as tobirama is dead ;D

 

[EL MAGNIFICO]

Yeah u r right ....tobirama was a beast ...and he used to edo summoan ~ sasuke sarutobi , the father of hiruzen sarutobi an some senju ancestors !!!

 

[Braveknight]

explain to me...how him got pwned from just 20 normal ninjas?

 

[Beastbomb]

He did some pretty cool stuff against the third in edo form so I can only imagine what he is really capable of I would love to see a backstory on him.

 

[Ryuu..]

Hmm, I think perhaps this could be true.

 

[Exaar]

I Wouldn't put him on Kisames level of Chakra.

 

[EL MAGNIFICO]

I Wouldn't put him on Kisames level of Chakra.

yeah cuz he was a senju so he had enormous ...probably larger thn kisame !!

 

[Flame Alchemist]

dying against 20 anbu/jounin is nothing to be underestimated.
if someone is capable of taking on 3-4 jounin at once it means he's kage level. if someone is capable of taking on 10 jounins at once it means he deserves to become a legend. but if there is someone who can take on 20 jounins at once it would either be edo-madara or naruto.
even hashirama and kabuto are doubtful.

and I too believe that tobirama was a lot more than what we saw.

 

[FlyingThunderGodHax]

I Wouldn't put him on Kisames level of Chakra.

actually you could. They may not be identical but their close. Anyway the 3rd said something bout how he could summon so much water and change the battle field into a lake in seconds just like kisame. Plus senju are usually associated with having strong/durable large chakara reserves like hashirama.
His large scale suiton tech's are a representation of his chakra reserves . And his suiton tech's are pretty fu*in huge lol.

However chakra wise i think kisame just has a bit more but he isn't far off. But thats just my opinion.

 

[Exaar]

yeah cuz he was a senju so he had enormous ...probably larger thn kisame !!

Uzumaki's are Also knows for having Alot of Chakra, Yet 30% Kisame > Naruto

 

[Genduko]

tobirama would have been the perfect fit for Tobi .
He had space time nin jutsu
His death is/was under weird circumstances
He could have resented his brother for being chosen as the clans leader and as the first hokage.
Tobirama <its right in the name
It wouldn't have been impossible for kishi to fill in the holes

But noo kishi decided to bring him and his brother back only to make them look like average ninja such a troll

 

[FlyingThunderGodHax]

Uzumaki's are Also knows for having Alot of Chakra, Yet 30% Kisame > Naruto

Im not really sure where i heard this but kakshi said that naruto chakara was split between him and suppressing the kyuubi's chakra and that with out it he would have 4 times as much. So 4x30 = 120 and 120>100. Im not sure whether kakshi said 4 times as much but he did say something along the lines of him having a considerable amount of chakara then usual .

Any way kisame is using samehada nuff said. Back to the topic

Chakara wise
Kisame < Tobirama
Kisame + samehada > Tobirama
Kisame <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Tobirama + Samehada

 

[Genduko]

Uzumaki's are Also knows for having Alot of Chakra, Yet 30% Kisame > Naruto

Naruto at that point wasn't that strong but i believe naruto when his using the 9 tails chackra and has that yellow form thing vs kisame i believe naruto would win
Basically where guy fought kisame for the last time instead of guy that would be naruto in The 9 tails chacra form

 

[dowhatupreach]

explain to me...how him got pwned from just 20 normal ninjas?

he wouldn't sacrifice himself for only 20 NORMAL ninjas, even one of the rookie 9 can kill 20 normal ninjas.

 

[Gatsuuga]

In regards to the chakra levels of tobirama, I don't think it really matters that much. Since he was a senju we can probably assume that he had relatively high stamina and chakra levels. Yet the actual level doesn't matter so much (although we can assume its quite high) since Tobirama had impeccable chakra control, possibly the best we have seen since Haku. He was able to do a 44 symbol jutsu (Suiton: Water Dragon) with only one hand seal. That is some serious serious chakra control right there.

 

[Just Enjoy This Shit]

I think Tobi really merked those ninja and used it as an excuse to defect from HL to work on reviving his brother via ET. Thats where I think zestu came from. Also niggas forgot he still needed a human sacrifice.. He obviously isn't that shiny of a character...very very shady dude here.

Kishimoto is to lame of a writer to think of a plot twist like that. Tobi probably has some lame story reveal thats gunna piss us off. Naruto is always like that

 

[Elio]

I agree with the OP. I used to think Tobirama could've been Tobi but then I remembered that Oro summoned him..