Preta path?
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salamander uchiha
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The paths themselves existed Madara chose not to name them or use their names. It doesnt mean he could use them. And Obito doesn't call it Nagato's jutsu since he himself is using the 6paths jutsu. The reason he doesnt use the rinnegan techs is because he's maintain control over the tailed beasts as Kakashi confirms although I call it plot shield.
If you really wanted to post the 4th databook as proof why didn't use post preys path as an example since that's the main point of discussion.
A link would also be helpful and the manga confirms that the others also use the powers of the 6 paths. Madara uses chibaku tensei, so does Sasuke, both demonstrate the ability of the preta path etc.
The reason kishi didn't list other users in the 3rd databook is because that would give away future plot developments and powers attained by characters. It's not very bright to reveal the future plot before it happens. Also until he's certain it something is penned down it's still open to what the future holds.
The can I posted from the 3rd databook confirms he who posesses the rinnegan is capable of using 7 different powers. Mentioning them by name ad realms. Then it mentions the outer/heretic path stands out the most. When the restriction of only Nagata being able to use it. It's clearly reffering to the heretic path/outer path since it's powers are mentioned in that paragraph.
This actually confirms what I've been saying since Obito too used the outer path to revive Madara although he wanted to revive the alliance. That adds weight to what I've been saying.
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Every Jutsu in the series has a name. No such thing that it existed and he chose not to name them. Paths only existed in Nagato's time because he created them with the Rinnegan, hence why the manga all the time refer to it as Pain's Jutsu or The Six Paths of Pain.
''A new Pain Rikudou created using the Jinchuriki'' - Kishimoto via Obito
''You have all of Pain's Jutsu'' - Kishimoto via Naruto.
Kishimoto has always referred the Six Paths as Pain. They're exclusive to Nagato only.
I posted it because you think the text has anything to do with timeline and I'm telling you it's got nothing to do with timeline. 4th databook goes up to Naruto The Last, and Kishimoto only classifies Nagato as sole user of Six Paths.
Chibaku Tensei isn't part of the Six Paths. I showed you that the Rinnegan absorption ability Madara and Sasuke used isn't Preta Path.
4th databook disagrees with this notion.
The text refers to Nagato only. It doesn't refer to other Rinnegan users. It says ''He'' which specifies a certain someone and then it says ''used only by Nagato''. All that means Nagato with the power of his Rinnegan can utilize 7 powers. That doesn't involve other Rinnegan users, otherwise the text would have been written a different way.
Outer Path isn't part of the 6 Paths of Pain. It's a separate. The only thing all Rinnegan users have in common is they can use the Outer Path. Pain's Path powers are exclusive to Nagato, as stated in the manga and databook.
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You're correct, nagato was special, madara selected him personally, knowing he would be successful in mastering rinnegan that must tell something.
InfiniteMugen
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Quick question, did you ever think the data book and what not are calling his seperating the jutsus and putting them in controllable bodies the six paths of pain and his jutsus? I’ve seen you use the data book wording to refute anyone else possessing the 6 path powers but in reality it makes more
Sense that it’s called the six paths of pain jutsu BECAUSE he put them in 6 seperate bodies, this would not only still make the data book correct but people that say sasuke and madara have used paths too, as well as still make sense that nagato himself would be the 7th. It would be kinda silly(imo) to think that paths techniques are exclusive to nagato when they weren’t even his eyes to begin with. He didn’t awaken anything in them himself he’s just using their power.
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when Madara said too much energy he meant the RS was too dangerous for him to carelessly tank with his immortal body, not that it had too much energy to absorb. Plus Madara absorbed the whole RS in one swoop, so it doesn't make much sense to say RS hit some kind of preta path limit.
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There is actually no need to madara to even think of tanking it if he had preta. Since the omnidirectional orb absorbs every chakra made substances which comes into contact with it. So your point is moot.
Your assertion wouldn't make sense, actually. If what you're saying that all Rinnegan users have access to Pain's Jutsu. Kishimoto wouldn't call them Pain's Jutsu and would instead call them Rinnegan's 6 Paths or Rinnegan Jutsu. The Six Paths of Pain or 6 Paths or Pain's Jutsu can refer to either Nagato's powers himself or his Pain bodies. Either way, it refers to Nagato only and no one else.
Him not awakening the Rinnegan is irrelevant. Kakashi shat on that Uchiha argument long time ago. He used Kamui Shurikens and Kamui Raikiri that Obito himself couldn't do. Even if the eyes weren't Nagato's to begin with, he can still create powers exclusive to him. Hagoromo created Ninjutsu; can he use Rasengan? Nope. Madara has Rinne Sharingan; can he use Amenominaka? Nope. You don't go around handing out feats to characters that haven't shown or stated to use them. That isn't how a discussion works.
Uchiha fanboys need to stop handing out Nagato's sole feats to other Rinnegan users. Kishimoto already classified him as sole user in databook 4. If you have a problem with that, take it up with the author.
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Who cares about uchihas?? Seriously? A childish defense mechanism is all you have? You literally used an example of someone taking a jutsu that came with a outsourced eye, and combined it with a known jutsu, and a ninja tool, to prove that someone with an outsourced eye has techs that the person the eye belongs to has no access to, despite showing an eerily similar tech to one of them, along with sasuke doing the same with his, bum bum bum... rinnegan. And then you’ve got the superiority complex to tell me how a “discussion” is supposed to work. We weren’t having a vs debate to begin with...what a horrible example though lol... KAMUI Raikiri And KAMUI shuriken..
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Chibaku tensei is a rinnegan jutsu. Like limited absorption. While the sixpaths of pain jutsu are not. Sasuke has never shown Shinra tensei or asura or animal or Hell Realm King Summon or preta orb absorption. So what does that mean? They cant use it. Sasuke showed the usage of Bansho tenin, but it was headcanon. So it's proven that madara and Sasuke can't use sixpaths abilities. They're nagato's own jutsu not rinnegan's.
You asked a question and I gave you an answer referencing canon stuff and not your little ''outsourced'' attempts to downplay Nagato. Then you started crying about why Uchiha can't do what Nagato can. I'll tell you again: If you want to bitch and cry about a finished manga argumentation, take it up with the author and not me. The author said only Nagato can use the 6 Paths, I didn't say that. I merely referenced his words, since it's his manga and not yours. And looking at your piss grammar, I can tell discussion isn't something you're acknowledged at. It's not about superiority complexity, you tool. No one discusses a point in a debate without having substantial proof to backup his point. Sasuke and Madara have never shown the 6 Paths techniques, so they don't get it. Simple as that. You want to moan about it, I don't really care.
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Six path being exclusive to nagato is complete and utter fanfiction. You and the other clown over there should stop swarming this thread with bs like that. Konan and the DB completely shit all over such claims.There is no scan saying rinnegan grants different absorption abilities. Someone posted a scan of Edo madara saying the rinnegan can absorb all jutsu which is a perfect description of preta. Obito was going to use Human path on yamato. All this are abilities available to anyone weilding the rinnegan, as simple as that.
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Why would I take it up with kishi? Your the one who doesn’t understand and is blinded by being a fanboy despite claiming everyone else is... everyone mentions an uchiha when it comes to paths cause it’s madaras eye no more no less. Lol your desperation is funny though, dude wanking pain with a pain Ava and sig is literally accusing someone else of being a fan boy, the hypocrisy is real, as smart as you pretend to be you can’t be too bright to not see that glaringly obvious fact, or the glaring fault in your pre k class argument, but if your even anywhere near as smart as you like to pretend to be you’ll see it eventually... then again..
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Lmao, clown. This is what happens when you've shitty comprehension skills. Konan didnt know madara gave nagato the rinnegan. So she assumed nagato and SO6P were the only one who had the rinnegan. Secondly, japanese dont differentiate between singular and plural. So when the databook says " only nagato", it means no one after him will be able to use it. The sentence itself says " the realms which possess the rinnegan" not " the rinnegan possessor has access to these realms" which means the realms are not rinnegan powers. They're nagato's jutsu. Its called "six paths of pain" instead of "sixpaths of the rinnegan" for a reason. "Used only by nagato", there you've it, clown. Konan says" the nagato's ocular power itself is a jutsu" which means it's his jutsu + the DB statement"The power of nagato's eyes allow him to use jutsu which gives mastery over life and death" = your assumptions debunked. The keyword there is "mastery" instead of "use", which means nagato has "mastered" the generic abilities of rinnegan with his own jutsu. While all other rinnegan wielders only use it's generic abilities without any addup.
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Cool, nice refute, you’ve obviously got nothing so thanks for playing.
salamander uchiha
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Yeah his comprehension is a little poor he doesn't understand the purpose of paragraphs and commas. If he did he wouldn't be this confused, the exclusivity being referred to was that of heretic path but by the next databook you have Obito using it.
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Obito used six paths technique not the six realms. They have the rods and shared vision, not the abilities.
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This is an excellent analysis.
However, I am critical of you on one minor point. I would argue that the Preta Path jutsu that Nagato has developed is not necessarily a technique of his own, but rather it is a more evolved version of the Rinnegan's original technique, showcasing that Nagato was the most skilled or pure Rinnegan user.
Perhaps Sasuke and Madara have not reached the same level as Nagato, so they can only utilize the weaker form of the Rinnegan's absorption, but when they do, I imagine they would also gain the ability to utilize the bottomless sphere, or "Preta Path" jutsu.
The evidence to support my claim is when Obito mentions using the Human Path ability on Yamato:
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Additionally, it is possible that the "upgraded" versions of the Rinnegan's original techniques are indeed Nagato's own, and that would mean that any Rinnegan user would develop his or her own unique Rinnegan techniques based off the originals. However, based on the page I posted, I am not sure how plausible that hypothesis is.