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Madara showed a limit to absorbing rasenshuriken right? If that was so, did he really use preta path or some other absorption jutsu?
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Preta Path, if not Jutsu absorption in general, was hinted to have its limits. There's a reason Kaguya couldn't absorb Naruto's Chou Bijuu Rasenshuriken.
Momoshiki does seem to have the highest limit of all them though. He did absorb a whole Bijuudama.
Momoshiki does seem to have the highest limit of all them though. He did absorb a whole Bijuudama.
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preta path(Edo Nagato) has comparable or even superior feat by absorbing the v2 chakra cloak of bee which is mostlikey more chakra than TTB .
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OP: It was obviously preta path hence why kishi shows a clear view of his rinnegan, and the only absorption tech the rinnegan does is preta path. Lastly, don't know why this is still a thing after 6 years, Madara was never implying RS was going over some limit with "that too much" or "too much energy" line. Madara was basically saying that RS was too dangerous to carelessly tank with his immortal edo body, hence the "too much". Plus Pain/Nagato had zero problems absorbing RS and things with much more chakra in them (i.e. Bijuu cloak) so Madara should have no problems too.
For some reason people still think when Madara said "too much", it meant that the RS was reaching some sort of preta path limit, even though Pain/Nagato absorbed RS like nothing and Nagato even asborbed a full bijuu cloak with no prob. And the line obviously meant the RS was too dangerous for Madara to play around with by just taking it with his body.
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That wasn't Preta Path. One is called a Rinnegan power and the other is just a Jutsu:
Is Sharingan precognition a Jutsu? No, it's a Dojutsu ability. So just like that: Rinnegan has the ability to absorb Jutsu (limited), but Preta Path is Nagato's specified Jutsu to absorb. What's the difference then?
Rinnegan absorption ability:
-They've shown a limit in how much they could absorb - ET Madara's max limit was FRS, hence the phrase ''Too much energy''.
-They are never shown with a sphere.
-They couldn't use Preta Path in conjunction with other Jutsu.
Preta Path:
-Unlimited absorption capacity.
-Always shown with a sphere.
-Can be used in conjunction with other techniques.
It's likely Nagato amplified the existing Rinnegan absorption ability with another Jutsu, hence he the name Gakido. Just like how he did it with the Rinnegan dogs.
Kaguya can absorb Jutsu, so does that mean she has Preta Path? No. Momoshiki can absorb Jutsu, so does that mean he has Preta Path? No. Blind Madara can absorb Jutsu, so does that mean he has Preta Path? No. Not to mention there hasn't been a single time Madara or Sasuke actually said ''Gakido'' when they absorbed Jutsu, but Nagato did since it's a name of his Jutsu.
Rinnegan absorption ability goes to all Rinnegan users, but Preta Path is only unique to Nagato.
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Is Sharingan precognition a Jutsu? No, it's a Dojutsu ability. So just like that: Rinnegan has the ability to absorb Jutsu (limited), but Preta Path is Nagato's specified Jutsu to absorb. What's the difference then?
Rinnegan absorption ability:
-They've shown a limit in how much they could absorb - ET Madara's max limit was FRS, hence the phrase ''Too much energy''.
-They are never shown with a sphere.
-They couldn't use Preta Path in conjunction with other Jutsu.
Preta Path:
-Unlimited absorption capacity.
-Always shown with a sphere.
-Can be used in conjunction with other techniques.
It's likely Nagato amplified the existing Rinnegan absorption ability with another Jutsu, hence he the name Gakido. Just like how he did it with the Rinnegan dogs.
Kaguya can absorb Jutsu, so does that mean she has Preta Path? No. Momoshiki can absorb Jutsu, so does that mean he has Preta Path? No. Blind Madara can absorb Jutsu, so does that mean he has Preta Path? No. Not to mention there hasn't been a single time Madara or Sasuke actually said ''Gakido'' when they absorbed Jutsu, but Nagato did since it's a name of his Jutsu.
Rinnegan absorption ability goes to all Rinnegan users, but Preta Path is only unique to Nagato.
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I agree with you. Preta path is noted to be a sealing jutsu in the page, so as uzumaki being known for thier superior sealing techniques, preta must be an uzumaki sealing jutsu.
Kishimoto is such a great word player, look at the heading saying "endless whirlpool", the name of uzumaki's village is the "The village of whirlpools" so it's indeed a hint that Preta is an uzumaki sealing jutsu.
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All the paths of pain have a ubqieue jutsu they all originate from the Rinnegan. As does the unique jutsu they use they're just advanced forms of lesser jutsu.
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All the paths being confirmed to belong to the Rinnegan.
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Here Nagato uses the jutsu and calls it preta path and note he's not covered in the bubble like fat pain. It's evident that when used by the user themself it takes a different form to when transmitted by the user via the 6pofp
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1). First scan says only Nagato can use it.
2). You can't see it because the picture is drawn too closely.
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Nagato is shown with a bubble when absorbing a Jutsu. So there is no difference. It's pretty obvious the absorption used by Nagato and other people is different.
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Nagato used it differently in different circumstances for 1 directional attacks direct absorption like he did with me similar to Madara. And against different types of attacks he uses it differently probably to increase surface area.
Yes the first scan says Nagato is the only one who can use them because at the time of that databook there weren't any other rinnegan users. Madara, Obito, Sasuke using the rinnegan was done far later but it's confirmed to be a rinnegan power/path by the first scan.
The sphere has no direction. It's always been shown at 360.
Read the page. It says on top ''He'' and below it said ''Used only by Nagato''. Its context doesn't refer to a timeline like you're suggesting; if it did, the text would have been written different, if it's going to include all Rinnegan users in general, but instead it uses a specified word to describe someone, hence ''He'' refers to Nagato only, hence ''Used only by Nagato''. There is no timeline in that case. The page can't possibly refer to all Rinnegan users, considering the Paths are named after Nagato himself, so how in the world is Madara going to use something named after someone else, when Madara was dead at the time? That's like saying Hagoromo - creator of Ninjutsu can use Rasengan or Shadow Clones, even though certain techniques were invented after him.
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You're taking the statement too literally. Madara had already absorbed FRS and said it carried too much energy, so obviously any Jutsu above FRS in energy is going to impossible for him to absorb. And yes, it's a Rinnegan ability but not Preta Path, the latter is a Jutsu specified for Nagato only.
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The paths are still rinnegan abilities I think Nagato named the paths to emphasise his mastery and portray his image of being a God. However the paths existed always as did the outer path Nagato uses it and refers to them as such. He could use them naturally because of the rinnegan bu Madara uses them as unnamed jutsu he was interested in the image of being a God.
The scan clearly confirms the paths are rinnegan abilities and they're demonstrated by different users.
I repeat the 3rd databook doesn't account for future rinnegan users and is limited up to that point. The 3rd databook hoes up from beginning of shippuden to chapter 402 after Jiraiya vs Pain and Itachi's vs Sasuke. So it's limitations are to be taken up that point. It doesn't account fr Madara or Sasuke becoming rinnegan users.
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That obviously isn't the case, considering Obito refers the Paths as Pain/Nagato Jutsu. Like every Jutsu in the manga has its name, Nagato named those after himself and Kishimoto has always referred to the Paths as Pain's Jutsu, not the Rinnegan's Jutsu. You're basically saying Madara is using techniques he doesn't know the name of? :lol That sounds ridiculous.
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I never said they aren't Rinnegan abilities. They're exclusive to Nagato only.
So you're saying Kishimoto didn't think of that, when he wrote the 3rd databook? Let's say you were right on this; 4rth databook only lists Nagato as sole user of Six Paths. Shinra Tensei as an example:
Shinra-tensei (All-Nature Repulsion).
Ninjutsu, Keke-genkai, offensive, defensive, close range.
Users: Nagato
Invisible hand of God, that repels anything in creation!
Pain Tendou uses this jutsu, utilizing the generated from the users hands repulsive (gravity) force to repel targets away. The number of targets that can be repelled and their size are irrelevant . In addition by stopping the utilization of other Pain paths the amount of chakra put in the jutsu, its strength and area of effect can be greatly increased. With one strike of its power entire Konoha no sato (Konoha village) was turned to smoldering ash. But after this jutsu has been triggered there is a small five second window it can't be used again. The originating repulsion force generated by the power of all creation”shinra obiki” (something that binds all together,so likely gravitation) forces its targets to collide together with a great force and put out additional damage, combined together with the initial force (shock wave) it puts up even more damage. Only those who can manipulate all chakra transformation properties (seishitsu) legendary “Rinnegan” wielders are allowed to posses this jutsu that has all rights to be called “crystally perfect”.
Picture: Its repulsion force is so strong that even ninjutsu and taijutsu are equally ineffective against this jutsu, with an unexpected discharge of the invisible force, it is very easy to catch opponents off guard .
So it seems that shinra tensei uses natural gravitational force, and only the one who has all chakra transformation (including yin-yang) can manipulate natural gravity field (shinra obiki).
Ninjutsu, Keke-genkai, offensive, defensive, close range.
Users: Nagato
Invisible hand of God, that repels anything in creation!
Pain Tendou uses this jutsu, utilizing the generated from the users hands repulsive (gravity) force to repel targets away. The number of targets that can be repelled and their size are irrelevant . In addition by stopping the utilization of other Pain paths the amount of chakra put in the jutsu, its strength and area of effect can be greatly increased. With one strike of its power entire Konoha no sato (Konoha village) was turned to smoldering ash. But after this jutsu has been triggered there is a small five second window it can't be used again. The originating repulsion force generated by the power of all creation”shinra obiki” (something that binds all together,so likely gravitation) forces its targets to collide together with a great force and put out additional damage, combined together with the initial force (shock wave) it puts up even more damage. Only those who can manipulate all chakra transformation properties (seishitsu) legendary “Rinnegan” wielders are allowed to posses this jutsu that has all rights to be called “crystally perfect”.
Picture: Its repulsion force is so strong that even ninjutsu and taijutsu are equally ineffective against this jutsu, with an unexpected discharge of the invisible force, it is very easy to catch opponents off guard .
So it seems that shinra tensei uses natural gravitational force, and only the one who has all chakra transformation (including yin-yang) can manipulate natural gravity field (shinra obiki).
4th databook goes up to Naruto The Last.
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