Prediction of the end of Madara and start of the finale

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This theory is based on symbolism in the manga and the parallelism, so please bare with me here.

Clear ups if you think i am "mad" or "hurt" (Since this would be the troll response i would get from some wannabe troll members):
- I had already made the theory of Hashirama being made useless, for Madara to comeback alive as a villain. So I really have no reason to be mad or hurt, since I was spot on and already knew this was the typical scenario.

- My favorite character is Naruto not Hashirama (him being number 2). Don't know why people still don't get this.

- I wasn't the one b*tching and moaning when the Manga stated Obito >> Hashirama, because it was a fact. Since I really didn't care for it.

- Hashirama started out as a weak Hokage from the first time we knew him. And then revealed to be the strongest.. I didn't care for it, simply go with the manga.

So if you believe I'm "mad" or "hurt.. then you are slightly delusional. (Now I only made this to address the troll posts, even though I'm aware idiots will still post em even after reading this.)

Symbolism: The Rivals

The symbolism of the 2 rivals has been a strong one in the manga. We can start from Young and Older Son to Naruto and Sasuke. You'll see some parallels. And it is one of these parallels that I am basing my theory on.

Focused parallelism:

- Madara and Hashirama as rivals = Madara always trying to reach to surpass Hashirama, but in the end failing.

- Danzo and Hiruzen as rivals = Danzo constantly trying to surpass Hiruzen, but in the end failing, and seeing where he went wrong.

- Sasuke and Naruto as rivals = Though yes in the start Naruto strives to chase after Sasuke and become stronger than him, but the chasing was turned around right after that Haku fight. We have constantly seen that when Sasuke "catches" up, Naruto shows to be stronger. Prime example, in the chunin exams Naruto beat neji, so sasuke was taking on Gaara and got superior, however Naruto beat Gaara and got ahead of Sasuke again. So its the same-thing here, Naruto will always be ahead (Something people need to simply accept).


Now, please don't get this confused with "oh he sayin that Kishimoto fanboys the good people" no. The main theme if you notice in those people has always been the paths they chose. Sasuke = Natural genius (due to the sharingan). Naruto = Hard working guy, giving his all. See Danzo, tried to take the easy way out with the sharingans and etc, but in the end failed to Hiruzen who was simply a hardworking guy who studied and trained. Madara (puts on my flame jacket for the rants that'll be coming) with experimenting himself and etc, and lets not forget also born a genius with the sharingan, while Hashirama (Saying he was born with Mokuton is useless, since he is the original user, hence he had to master it and create his own techniques) just hardworking guy no tricks or anything.



The Prediction:

Madara will go down by Hashirama having some hand in it, and will have the same death as Danzo as to why Hashirama was 1 step ahead of him. Though he might not change his motive before death or even when hes dieing, he will still remember Hashirama. Because if you notice he has been trying to surpass Hashirama , even right now.

The defeat of Madara will come from Naruto and co of course, and possibly the 2nd and 3rd having a HUGE part in it (especially the Second Hokage). This will also lead to a diversity between Sasuke and Naruto, and probably split the alliance into 2. Of course, the decision would be regarding the Tailed beasts and the future of the shinobi world.


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I don't think that Naruto would be the one to defeat him. Madara seems like Sasuke's "Obito" and it'll be up to Sasuke to take him down. Madara has already defeated the five current kages, no need to see a repeat. With Madara's rods, I don't think Hashi will be in action for while, maybe in the last second to use the Buddha statue (i have a feeling Madara will have a way around that this time too) Of course Naruto, 2nd and 3rd will help, but i dont think they will be the ones doing the finishing strike, probably Sasuke or Obito himself.
 
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yeah,sure i think the hashirama genes would play a part in madara downfall and hashirama would have the last laugh even from the grave,one way or the other his legacy would live on
 

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I don't think that Naruto would be the one to defeat him. Madara seems like Sasuke's "Obito" and it'll be up to Sasuke to take him down. Madara has already defeated the five current kages, no need to see a repeat. With Madara's rods, I don't think Hashi will be in action for while, maybe in the last second to use the Buddha statue (i have a feeling Madara will have a way around that this time too) Of course Naruto, 2nd and 3rd will help, but i dont think they will be the ones doing the finishing strike, probably Sasuke or Obito himself.
Hashirama is too weak for something like the buddha so the possibility of that is kind of impossible. And maybe you are right. But remember that Naruto is the main focus of the series not Sasuke. Sasuke himself believes in the same ways as Madara (that forcing people to unite is the best and using power to create peace).
 

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Also, Obito and Kakashi were rivals, but in the end he wasn't brought down by Kakashi. But you could be right
 

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also dont think madara would control hashirama he is too proud and arrogant to do that..moreover he can use hashis jutsus so no need
 

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Also, Obito and Kakashi were rivals, but in the end he wasn't brought down by Kakashi. But you could be right

Kakashi was the one to bring down Obito, the "good" rival always a step ahead:

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also dont think madara would control hashirama he is too proud and arrogant to do that..moreover he can use hashis jutsus so no need

Sadly he has already shown his mokuton skills aren't on par with Hashirama's (without SM). Don't think that he can use all of Hashirama's techs.
 

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Kakashi was the one to bring down Obito, the "good" rival always a step ahead:

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Sadly he has already shown his mokuton skills aren't on par with Hashirama's (without SM). Don't think that he can use all of Hashirama's techs.

I was thinking power wise (how the Susanoo Kyuubi fusion beat the DNA Sword) but it's true Kakashi was gonna leave the finishing blow. Now that i think of it Obito was the underdog in the rivalry and Kakashi was the 1-step ahead genius. but they were both pretty 'hardworking' as you'd say.
 

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Tobirama for the win. <3
 
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Sasuke is going to kill Naruto if he interfere, your prediction is wrong, Hashirama is almost dead.

The so called bad rival saved your favorites @ss. That right there proves you wrong. Sasuke is fighting for the village and his brother. That makes him good, but it doesn't matter which side you're on in real life or in fake anime the side you're on is the side you think is good/right.

Logic. Same with the character that you like as well. Its been foreshadowed many times that Naruto and Sasuke together could own, but Madara has blurred that line and Naruto has done that exact thing for Sasuke himself by giving him some of his chakra and by sasuke having senjutsu chakra in his body.

Sasuke has the ability to take down Madara more than anyone at this point and it has been proven in the latest chapter. Hashirama is gravel now, soon there will be a speech that makes naruto mad or something and then the manga will get crappy and tnj will sprout.
 

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Personally I think he's going to lose control of Mokuton SM and turn into a tree (like what almost happened to Danzo) since I can't imagine Madara leaving a corpse behind after his inevitable defeat.
 

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Not much of a prediction, just spouting what many people already know. But it supports many of which has been paralleled by past rivals. (not bashing)
 

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You are right... I like this thread
 

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I was thinking power wise (how the Susanoo Kyuubi fusion beat the DNA Sword) but it's true Kakashi was gonna leave the finishing blow. Now that i think of it Obito was the underdog in the rivalry and Kakashi was the 1-step ahead genius. but they were both pretty 'hardworking' as you'd say.
Lol @ Dna sword. =D. Well actually no, Kakashi got to his level by purely working hard. Obito was the "genius" one with the sharingan, however he simply wasn't good at it. Kakashi had no gift or anything like that, simply hard work.


Sasuke is going to kill Naruto if he interfere, your prediction is wrong, Hashirama is almost dead.

The so called bad rival saved your favorites @ss. That right there proves you wrong. Sasuke is fighting for the village and his brother. That makes him good, but it doesn't matter which side you're on in real life or in fake anime the side you're on is the side you think is good/right.

Logic. Same with the character that you like as well. Its been foreshadowed many times that Naruto and Sasuke together could own, but Madara has blurred that line and Naruto has done that exact thing for Sasuke himself by giving him some of his chakra and by sasuke having senjutsu chakra in his body.

Sasuke has the ability to take down Madara more than anyone at this point and it has been proven in the latest chapter. Hashirama is gravel now, soon there will be a speech that makes naruto mad or something and then the manga will get crappy and tnj will sprout.
"Hashirama is almost dead", key word is almost.

And didn't Naruto save Sasuke's ass also? rofl.

@Logic, that was so confusing..

It probably will be Sasuke now that i think about it, but Naruto himself (the Savior) will have a big part in that. Watch even Madara is going to make the "Naruto reminds him of Hashirama" comparison.

Actually if you are against the main character no matter your intentions.. you are considered bad.

Personally I think he's going to lose control of Mokuton SM and turn into a tree (like what almost happened to Danzo) since I can't imagine Madara leaving a corpse behind after his inevitable defeat.

Oh I can see that, and then possibly merge back into the God Tree?
 
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