Prediction : Obito's TNJ could = Madara and Obito taking each other out !!

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Since it's becoming quite obvious that Obito will get TNJed, according to the trend in Naruto :

If a bad guy shows any sign of doubt and he was once good, there's a 99.9% chance that he will go down as a good guy thanks to a MIGHTY TNJ.

and Madara preparing something big to take over (looking at the scale of this fight, Obito's level) and seems too confident, letting Obito do what he wishes as if he is waiting for a specific moment to make his move (remember this guy has more knowledge on all of this than any existing character in the series) :

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so i believe that Kishi is setting the stage for Obito's downfall as a GOOD guy redeeming himself, which leads me to think of two scenario's :

1. Madara interferes at the right moment, takes over and acquires Obito's power then Obito does one last good deed to weaken him leaving the final blow to the good guys (specifically Naruto). though i don't like this scenario coz Madara is still an Edo/not qualified to be a Jinchuuriki BUT, still there might be an unknown way around this.

2. Obito outsmarts Madara or anticipates his move (to stop him from acquiring the power) takes him down with him as his ultimate final last good deed, and Naruto would be the hero who inspired/convinced Obito to do so (and quite possibly helped him in the actual fight). YEP ............ I LIKE THIS SCENARIO :yeah:

let me know what you think about this, feel free to tell me if you think this is all just too crazy/not valid.
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You people are anticipating too much obito being TNJ'd. I know this last chapter hinted it, and know that another hint was all that conversation for so many chapters, but maybe there is a possibility that kishi will get obito TNJ'd AFTER THE FIGHT(after he is, somehow, defeated).

Something must be understood here. As much as we hate TNJ, it is an important thing for the overall plot. Naruto is trying to reach true peace, he wants people to understand each other, to live together to accept and respect the differences. How would he achieve that if he started to kill every villain who disagreed with him? He would be extremelly hypocrite, don't you think?

So, obito might get TNJ'd, but kishi should let that happen after the fight, in order not to ruin the epic momment we've been waiting for. Maybe madara manages to take his place, and then obito gets TNJ'd. For now, let's wait to see if kishi does the right thing.
 

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Option 1 is the most obvious , bc there's a reason why madara never died , he wanted to become the jinchuriki of the juubi.

Why are you saying that there's an unknown method for madara to become the juubi jinchuriki? i don't get it... he has the rinnegan , he already said in that chapter that you posted , how madara is going to be resurrected ... the black zetsu is the 2nd madara.

That's it.

You people are anticipating too much obito being TNJ'd. I know this last chapter hinted it, and know that another hint was all that conversation for so many chapters, but maybe there is a possibility that kishi will get obito TNJ'd AFTER THE FIGHT(after he is, somehow, defeated).

Something must be understood here. As much as we hate TNJ, it is an important thing for the overall plot. Naruto is trying to reach true peace, he wants people to understand each other, to live together to accept and respect the differences. How would he achieve that if he started to kill every villain who disagreed with him? He would be extremelly hypocrite, don't you think?

So, obito might get TNJ'd, but kishi should let that happen after the fight, in order not to ruin the epic momment we've been waiting for. Maybe madara manages to take his place, and then obito gets TNJ'd. For now, let's wait to see if kishi does the right thing.

But dude , obito is not the final villain , the final villain of shippuden is Madara :|.
 

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You people are anticipating too much obito being TNJ'd. I know this last chapter hinted it, and know that another hint was all that conversation for so many chapters, but maybe there is a possibility that kishi will get obito TNJ'd AFTER THE FIGHT(after he is, somehow, defeated).

Something must be understood here. As much as we hate TNJ, it is an important thing for the overall plot. Naruto is trying to reach true peace, he wants people to understand each other, to live together to accept and respect the differences. How would he achieve that if he started to kill every villain who disagreed with him? He would be extremelly hypocrite, don't you think?

So, obito might get TNJ'd, but kishi should let that happen after the fight, in order not to ruin the epic momment we've been waiting for. Maybe madara manages to take his place, and then obito gets TNJ'd. For now, let's wait to see if kishi does the right thing.

"You people are anticipating too much"

clam down bro, it's just a PREDICTION, and i never said anything about TNJ being bad/crazy.

as for the bold part, i absolutely agree, he tries to reach for the good in all of his opponents/inspires them to bring out their best.

you could have just desagreed with my scenario's/post yours .................... with out all the "you people" stuff :(
 

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But dude , obito is not the final villain , the final villain of shippuden is Madara :|.

Ok, it might be, but this doesn't have any relation whatsoever to what I posted. Obito is an important villain, and I'm saying that even he gets TNJ'd, it should happen after the fight. I'm not saying the fight will be the last, but it is an important fight. And maybe, the fight doesn't happen, but madara succeds in his plan, taking obito's place, and only after this obito gets TNJ'd. Or maybe the fight starts, it is in the middle, and madara succeds in his plan, and then obito gets TNJ'd.

All I'm saying is that TNJ, as much as it is hated, it is an important thing for the overall plot. But the ideal is that it happens only after the fight, in order not to ruin the epic momment we've beeb waiting for.
 

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"You people are anticipating too much"

clam down bro, it's just a PREDICTION, and i never said anything about TNJ being bad/crazy.

as for the bold part, i absolutely agree, he tries to reach for the good in all of his opponents/inspires them to bring out their best.

you could have just desagreed with my scenario's/post yours .................... with out all the "you people" stuff :(

lol, I'm not angry bro, I'm just saying. My natural way of speaking/typing seems angry, but it's not, don't worry. I said that because most people see a hint of something happening and start to state it like it already happened. People see a hint of X happening, and say "X is gonna happen, manga fact, it's sure to happen". But it's not always like that.
Get sage mode, for exemple. The momment it was said that only senjutsu works with obito, everybody started to think that kishi was oprah and kept stating "oh sasuke is getting SM, sakura is getting SM, tsunade is getting SM, madara is getting SM, tobirama is getting SM, fodder nº 16754 is getting SM". See what Im saying? Patience is important, so we should wait for sutff to be more clear before trying to anticipate it.

I also explained the importance of TNJ because many times people complain about it.
 

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Where did you read that? That's just speculation.

Well , when Sasuke "destroyed" the kyuubi that was inside naruto , the kyuubi before sasuke did that , he said: those eyes... those are the same eyes that madara uchiha had and you have the same power as him (something between those lines).

Plus , Madara never died , Tobi is Madara , meaning that Obito is just a vessel , if you read the manga on *********** you will see that kabuto said to Tobi that tobi is only a vessel for madara's body , read well , body , the edo madara is the soul part of his body , meaning that the black zetsu is in fact madara.

Ok, it might be, but this doesn't have any relation whatsoever to what I posted. Obito is an important villain, and I'm saying that even he gets TNJ'd, it should happen after the fight. I'm not saying the fight will be the last, but it is an important fight. And maybe, the fight doesn't happen, but madara succeds in his plan, taking obito's place, and only after this obito gets TNJ'd. Or maybe the fight starts, it is in the middle, and madara succeds in his plan, and then obito gets TNJ'd.

All I'm saying is that TNJ, as much as it is hated, it is an important thing for the overall plot. But the ideal is that it happens only after the fight, in order not to ruin the epic momment we've beeb waiting for.

Kishimoto doesn't care if tnj is the most hated "jutsu" ever , bc he'll do it anyways ... for example... look at the rinne-tensei ... don't you think that kishimoto didn't knew about that? DAMN! even the freaking Kyuubi-susano'o fusion is already an hated thing ... etc.
 
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Well , when Sasuke "destroyed" the kyuubi that was inside naruto , the kyuubi before sasuke did that , he said: those eyes... those are the same eyes that madara uchiha had and you have the same power as him (something between those lines).

Plus , Madara never died , Tobi is Madara , meaning that Obito is just a vessel , if you read the manga on *********** you will see that kabuto said to Tobi that tobi is only a vessel for madara's body , read well , body , the edo madara is the soul part of his body , meaning that the black zetsu is in fact madara.



Kishimoto doesn't care if tnj is the most hated "jutsu" ever , bc he'll do it anyways ... for example... look at the rinne-tensei ... don't you think that kishimoto didn't knew about that? DAMN! even the freaking Kyuubi-susano'o fusion is already an hated thing ... etc.

1- This was never stated in the manga. Madara's intention was to use obito as a path to accomplish his plans in order for him to become the jinchuriki, being revived with nagato's rinne tensei and discarding obito after becoming the jin. As madara saw that he was back but with the edo tensei, he intented to use obito again to revive him.
Obito was just a pawn to madara.
Kabuto never said that, and the black zetsu is only madara's will. As we saw, it seems that madara can control any zetsu remotely, using his will plus senju dna to do so. The zetsu he controls becomes black as a result of his will being used in the zetsu.

2- Did you read my first post? When was nagato TNJ'd? After the fight. I'm explaining that kishimoto should use the TNJ, because as I explained, it's important to the plot(read first post). However, the ideal is that he uses the TNJ after the fight, in order not to ruin the momment the fans have been waiting for. Usually, the tnj is used only after the fight with the villain is over. That's what I'm saying. The ideal is that, if obito is gonna get tnj'd, it should happen after the fight, or after madara "takes his place".
 
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