[Discussion] pre TS CP9 vs Zombie Oars
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Yeah, he got up and kept fighting for a while, while a similar attack knocked Zoro out cold.
Your second post does bring up a good question, does Oars have Luffy's Shadow? And is Moriah there?
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One of the most underrated abilities. Oars lacks the ability to feel due to having dead nerves, so she could soap up one of his legs and make him fall. He can't stand up, and she could smooth out of the rest of him while he's down. She can wash away Oars' physical strength and make him weak.
How about no, he stayed down until Luffy's third gear timed out.
OP said Zombie Oars, so did that mean shadow Luffy and Moria inside?
Unless there is this other form of Zombie oars that the straw hats encountered...
Lol, Shut up :|
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I made this thread to prove that the strongest doesn't always win. Some people would say that since Oars almost beat the SHs then that would mean he could beat CP9, but that's not the case. Oars giant size makes his feet an easy target for Kalifa's bubbles, so she washes his feet so that he falls and can't get up. Kaku then charges up his attack that cut up the Tower of Law while Oars is immobile to cut Oars in half. Kalifa then just washes up his arms to completely remove his strength and then CP9 just beats him up to the point that he cant move a single bone in his body.
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Incorrect, yet again.
Lucci was thrown onto a battleship, laid down for about three seconds, and stood back up, then resumed his fight with Luffy.
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Zoro was cold unconscious for a while.
Not really. Sure, having Luffy's shadow may be a given, but Moriah doesn't have to be there. We've seen Oars fight without Moriah in his stomach, so Zombie Oars doesn't automatically mean Moriah is there.
Even if he was, Blueno can go into his pocket dimension and open a portal right below Moriah and have him fall in, then leave, trapping Moriah inside. If Moriah switches with his shadow to escape, Blueno can just repeat and Moriah and his shadow are both stuck now.
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Laid down on the ship and waited for luffy to charge at him, hardly an effort to spring back towards him.
Why don't you keep posting afterwards what happened, keep on going until the point they got back inside at he lobby.
Guy almost lost conscious after one punch, image a hundred more hurtling towards him.
Can't even compare Zoro's durability to the CP9, because one of them actually got back from a recent battle.
Sanji included...
Off what bases?
Zombie Oars has Moriah inside of him throughout the battle.
Don't compare a mindless giant to a guy who can make clones fight for him.
Or Moriah just takes his shadow like he did Robin...
Or keep him inside of that shadow box, he's not opening any doors to that.
The biggest threat to the strawhats in that fight was Oars, not even Moria by himself.
Cp9 isn't dealing with Diablo Sanji, Zoro, Nightmare luffy, Nami, Robin, Brook, Ussop, Chopper, and Franky at the same time Oars did.
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There is no debate to be made here.
Each of CP9 dueled with a Strawhat, and the Strawhats beat each and every one of them. So naturally Strawhats>CP9.
And all the Strawhats plus 1 more man still couldn't even manage to land a major blow on Oars, so how in the hell do people think CP9 together could beat him? It took a powered up Luffy to take him out.
So Oars wins. Mid diff, only because theyd be hard to catch.
Each of CP9 dueled with a Strawhat, and the Strawhats beat each and every one of them. So naturally Strawhats>CP9.
And all the Strawhats plus 1 more man still couldn't even manage to land a major blow on Oars, so how in the hell do people think CP9 together could beat him? It took a powered up Luffy to take him out.
So Oars wins. Mid diff, only because theyd be hard to catch.
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Blueno opens a doorway and leads Lucci, Kaku, and Jabra into Oars stomach which is where Moriah is located. He would be stuck fighting 3 Zoans in a close quarter space, not going to end well for him. Lucci gives him a Rokugan to the stomach, Jabra stabs his chest wih his claws, and Kaku finishes him off with a decapitation Meanwhile, when Moriah is distracted(and killed), Kalifa washes Oars feet and makes him fall over and lose his mobility.
That would be impossible to do if Oarz is raining down a Gatling on the CP9.
If one third gear punch almost knocked out Lucci, just what does that say to the rest of them?
Blueno by himself can most likely escape, but even Moria was able to put 2nd gear luffy in the shadow box.
So if Blueno appears, he's not fast enough to escape Moria's shadow.
On top of that, Moria's shadow clone substitute has bested those of Kaidou and Doflamingo...
There is no way Moria is getting caught by CP9...
Wouldn't you agree?
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The CP9 is very skilled in Soru, so I doubt Oars could hit them that easy. After Blueno opens the door Lucci, Kaku, and Jabra quickly go in there and make quick work of Moriah in CQC.
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Okay sure.
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On the basis that we saw it happen?
Luffy chasing Moriah while Oars starts his battle with the Strawhats.[
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] Fight officially started here[
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]. The fight continues here[
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], which means Oars has been fighting without Moriah for at least three chapters. Zoro is all bloody, when the fight began, he was unscathed, so Oars has indeed been fighting them for a bit without Moriah there. In fact, all of the zombies are capable of fighting without Moriah present, Oars isn't different in that regard. Then you even see Moriah conversing with Kuma, while Oars is fighting the Strawhats.[
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Moriah didn't show up until a while after Oars and the Strawhats started fighting.I know Oars with Moriah aiding is above Oars by himself, I never said his threat level with Moriah is comparable to his threat level without Moriah. That's why I asked the OP if Moriah is there, if I thought it was comparable, I wouldn't have asked.
Chopper and Usopp here were able to avoid a barrage of Oars' giant limbs, it'd be laughable to think CP9 can't do the same with Geppou and Soru.[
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]You do realize that, like Zoro, Lucci was battling before he was smashed through a wall? Lucci and Gear 2 Luffy were going at it for quite a bit before Luffy brought out Gear 3, so the fact that Zoro was damaged before he was slammed into a wall isn't an excuse.
It's not like they're just gonna stand there and let Moriah do so. Moriah moves to take a shadow, and gets a Rankyaku to the face, or they move away using Soru and Geppou.
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