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[DHOH]

Preta Path:

A endless whirlpool that sucks away every jutsu

The jutsu cause the body chakra circulation to flow in reverse, sucking away the jutsu of the target.. The absorbed chakra disperses in side the body, and the power is sucked away as if into a bottomless swamp

Every jutsu regardless of its chakra properties is sucked away and rendered ineffective

So when someone says "it has a limit"' I'll say 'bottomless swamp'.
When someone says "it can't absorb Naruto's super omega resengan", I'll say 'sucks away every jutsu'.
When someone says "can't absorb sage chakra or he will turn to stone", I'll say 'every jutsu regardless of chakra properties is sucked away and rendered ineffective...

Shirna Tensei:

Invisible hand of God, that repels anything in creation!
Pain Tendou uses this jutsu, utilizing the generated from the users hands repulsive (gravity) force to repel targets away. The number of targets that can be repelled and their size are irrelevant. In addition by stopping the utilization of other Pain paths the amount of chakra put in the jutsu, its strength and area of effect can be greatly increased. With one strike of its power entire Konoha no sato (Konoha village) was turned to smoldering ash. But after this jutsu has been triggered there is a small five second window it can't be used again. The originating repulsion force generated by the power of all creation”shinra obiki” (something that binds all together,so likely gravitation) forces its targets to collide together with a great force and put out additional damage, combined together with the initial force (shock wave) it puts up even more damage. Only those who can manipulate all chakra transformation properties (seishitsu) legendary “Rinnegan” wielders are allowed to posses this jutsu that has all rights to be called “crystal-perfect”.
Picture: Its repulsion force is so strong that even ninjutsu and taijutsu are equally ineffective against this jutsu

Please don't come with Nagato weakens state and weaker chakra to compare what Sasuke could do with this jutsu..

Databook facts, not some assumptions and opinions..

 

[Izanamı.]

yes and Yata deflects every jutsu​

 

[DHOH]

yes and Yata deflects every jutsu​

Can you prove it can't?? Or is the jutsu to over power to give it the credit it deserves?? But it's acceptable to believe Minato is as fast as cloak Ay..

 

[Beastbomb]

Its already proven that Preta Path can absorb sage chakra. However if the person using Preta Path can't control sage chakra, then they turn to stone this has also been proven.

 

[DHOH]

Its already proven that Preta Path can absorb sage chakra. However if the person using Preta Path can't control sage chakra, then they turn to stone this has also been proven.

No. It's been proven if the person Absorb natural energy they turn to stone..

 

[Zealous Sparks]

Absorbs every jutsu, interesting...

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[lndra]

Preta Path Viz

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See that is the tricky question. Because the Viz scan says something close to that:

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The problem is, is that it goes against what Preta Path has shown being able to do in the manga. Both non-originated eyes, and originated eyes.

From what is shown in the obvious, in the manga scan. It possibly says "Sasuke cannot absorb the chakra of other techniques, while simultaneously turning off his own ninjusu techniques"

Preta Path flaws

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Madara abosrbing Fuuton: Rasenshuriken:

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Madara vs Yoton Rasengna: "Notice how he gets scared and tries to run away. When we all know damn well what the Rinnegan can do"

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It was the correct translation and was directly referring to Naruto's FRS. There was steam coming off his hand too.

"多すぎるな。。。" - "Too much..."

"な" is being used to emphasise as such.


This is information for everyone to use

 

[LeSauce]

Preta Path Viz

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See that is the tricky question. Because the Viz scan says something close to that:

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The problem is, is that it goes against what Preta Path has shown being able to do in the manga. Both non-originated eyes, and originated eyes.

From what is shown in the obvious, in the manga scan. It possibly says "Sasuke cannot absorb the chakra of other techniques, while simultaneously turning off his own ninjusu techniques"

Preta Path flaws

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Madara abosrbing Fuuton: Rasenshuriken:

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Madara vs Yoton Rasengna: "Notice how he gets scared and tries to run away. When we all know damn well what the Rinnegan can do"

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It was the correct translation and was directly referring to Naruto's FRS. There was steam coming off his hand too.

"多すぎるな。。。" - "Too much..."

"な" is being used to emphasise as such.


This is information for everyone to use

Sasuke was limited due to his new Rinnegan. He could do it if he was used to it.

Nagato absorbed more than that though. Madara is in no way worse than Nagato when it comes to Rinnegan abilities.

 

[lndra]

Sasuke was limited due to his new Rinnegan. He could do it if he was used to it.

Nagato absorbed more than that though. Madara is in no way worse than Nagato when it comes to Rinnegan abilities.

I. No. Viz scan implies something way different. PP Has never shown to utilize both ninjutsu/PP, only PP with other path techniques, like human path.

II. The strongest thing Nagato absorbed was a Mini-BijuuDama, which isn't far fetched. I wouldn't be surprised if PP absorbed a regular sized Bijuudama, but a Bijuudama with Senjutsu? Hell nah

 

[Zealous Sparks]

I. No. Viz scan implies something way different. PP Has never shown to utilize both ninjutsu/PP, only PP with other path techniques, like human path.

II. The strongest thing Nagato absorbed was a Mini-BijuuDama, which isn't far fetched. I wouldn't be surprised if PP absorbed a regular sized Bijuudama, but a Bijuudama with Senjutsu? Hell nah

When did Nagato absorb a mini TBB? I don't seem to recall that.

 

[DHOH]

I. No. Viz scan implies something way different. PP Has never shown to utilize both ninjutsu/PP, only PP with other path techniques, like human path.

II. The strongest thing Nagato absorbed was a Mini-BijuuDama, which isn't far fetched. I wouldn't be surprised if PP absorbed a regular sized Bijuudama, but a Bijuudama with Senjutsu? Hell nah

Lol there you go.. Viz scan implies Sasuke not being able to absorb chakra and attack at the same time because his rinnengan is knew and he's not use to it.

Number two is speculation which I'm not debating.

 

[LeSauce]

I. No. Viz scan implies something way different. PP Has never shown to utilize both ninjutsu/PP, only PP with other path techniques, like human path.

II. The strongest thing Nagato absorbed was a Mini-BijuuDama, which isn't far fetched. I wouldn't be surprised if PP absorbed a regular sized Bijuudama, but a Bijuudama with Senjutsu? Hell nah

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Nagato can use his paths while using PP. Kurama mentions Sasuke being new to the Rinnegan and not being used to it to give us a reason as to why he can't use both simultaneously. Otherwise it would be useless to.mention that he was new to the Rinnegan.

2. He absorbed 6 tails in an instant. That's close to his own amount of chakra, if not more.

 

[lndra]

Lol there you go.. Viz scan implies Sasuke not being able to absorb chakra and attack at the same time because his rinnengan is knew and he's not use to it.

Number two is speculation which I'm not debating.

I. Not even close.

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The problem is, is that it goes against what Preta Path has shown being able to do in the manga. Both non-originated eyes, and originated eyes.

From what is shown in the obvious, in the manga scan. It possibly says "Sasuke cannot absorb the chakra of other techniques, while simultaneously turning off his own ninjusu techniques"

So there you go.

When did Nagato absorb a mini TBB? I don't seem to recall that.

Honestly I don't remember him absorbing anything on the level of TBB. However, I do remember him absorbing some high level technique during the Pain Arc > Edo Tensei revival. I just cannot find the scan anywhere

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Nagato can use his paths while using PP. Kurama mentions Sasuke being new to the Rinnegan and not being used to it to give us a reason as to why he can't use both simultaneously. Otherwise it would be useless to.mention that he was new to the Rinnegan.

2. He absorbed 6 tails in an instant. That's close to his own amount of chakra, if not more.

I already stated that most paths work with PP.

Yes, I ALSO forgot to add that a close proximity also creates that barrier of chakra that seems to form a sphere around the user. Like I pointed out already, that still would not work.

One cannot use the Susanoo or other techs due to the principle of reverse chakra flow. Casting Ninjutsu and using Preta Path is an paradox in itself. So no one can use Susanoo and Preta Path at the same time.

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Quote from the Korasi:

I don't know if anyone has noticed this when using that argument, but none of the other paths are Ninjutsu, at all. Yes they use chakra, but they're not made of chakra like Susano'o is.

Nagato > Uses Preta and Human/Asura at the same time. Neither are made of chakra.

Sasuke would have to be in the same proximity in that case to use Preta as well. If he did it with Susano'o it wouldn't work since it would contradict the reverse chakra function of Preta Path while outwardly exerting his own chakra in the form of Susano'o.

 

[DHOH]

Lol yes that's exactly the meaning.. Viz says the same just worded it different.

Nagato absorb six tails, that's plenty of chakra.

 

[lndra]

Lol yes that's exactly the meaning.. Viz says the same just worded it different.

Nagato absorb six tails, that's plenty of chakra.

Tell me how six cloak Nagato's chakra, is the same as this:

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[LeSauce]

I. Not even close.

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The problem is, is that it goes against what Preta Path has shown being able to do in the manga. Both non-originated eyes, and originated eyes.

From what is shown in the obvious, in the manga scan. It possibly says "Sasuke cannot absorb the chakra of other techniques, while simultaneously turning off his own ninjusu techniques"

So there you go.



Honestly I don't remember him absorbing anything on the level of TBB. However, I do remember him absorbing some high level technique during the Pain Arc > Edo Tensei revival. I just cannot find the scan anywhere



I already stated that most paths work with PP.

Yes, I ALSO forgot to add that a close proximity also creates that barrier of chakra that seems to form a sphere around the user. Like I pointed out already, that still would not work.

One cannot use the Susanoo or other techs due to the principle of reverse chakra flow. Casting Ninjutsu and using Preta Path is an paradox in itself. So no one can use Susanoo and Preta Path at the same time.

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Quote from the Korasi:

Susan'o can use Chidori with no chakra system. Seriously?

There's no reason as to why Kurama would say that Sasuke's Rinnegan is new other than to point out that Sasuke can't use preta while using a jutsu yet.

About Susano'o. You cannot pick and choose which techniques he can or can't use. He used his S/T and Outer path, and chidori, a jutsu, therefore he can use all paths and all jutsu with it.

Also, six tails is more than a small tbb. Imagine what Sasuke can absorb with his power.

 

[Zealous Sparks]

Honestly I don't remember him absorbing anything on the level of TBB. However, I do remember him absorbing some high level technique during the Pain Arc > Edo Tensei revival. I just cannot find the scan anywhere

As far as I remember, Pain absorbed Jiraiya's Senpo: Goemen and Gallant Rasengan, some various elemental techs from Konoha shinobi during the invasion, Naruto's FRS and Natural Energy directly from Naruto which turned Gakido to stone. As an Edo Tensei, he absorbed Killer Bee's v2 cloak and Naruto's KCM Rasengan.

That's all the techniques I can recall him absorbing off the top of my head.

 

[lndra]

Susan'o can use Chidori with no chakra system. Seriously?

There's no reason as to why Kurama would say that Sasuke's Rinnegan is new other than to point out that Sasuke can't use preta while using a jutsu yet.

About Susano'o. You cannot pick and choose which techniques he can or can't use. He used his S/T and Outer path, and chidori, a jutsu, therefore he can use all paths and all jutsu with it.

When did Susano'o become a path technique?

Read the viz scan.

Manga proves otherwise mate
"I don't know if anyone has noticed this when using that argument, but none of the other paths are Ninjutsu, at all. Yes they use chakra, but they're not made of chakra like Susano'o is.

Nagato > Uses Preta and Human/Asura at the same time. Neither are made of chakra.

Sasuke would have to be in the same proximity in that case to use Preta as well. If he did it with Susano'o it wouldn't work since it would contradict the reverse chakra function of Preta Path while outwardly exerting his own chakra in the form of Susano'o."

 

[DHOH]

Tell me how six cloak Nagato's chakra, is the same as this:

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Never said it was the same.. I just provided databook facts..

 

[lndra]

Never said it was the same.. I just provided databook facts..

And I told you what the Manga book stated.

The Databook also states that Sasuke's S/T has a 10 meter limit, yet in the manga Sasuke blitzed capabilities vs. Kaguya/Avatar Naruto proved that wrong. :|