Powers No Kurama Naruto would need to be close to BSM Naruto

[KCMNaruto]

Hello guys, I am bored a bit and one question bothers me a bit. If Naruto never becomes Kurama jin again then what would he need to keep same place as BSM Naruto or at least close to it.

I can only see two scenarios:

1) SM Naruto with FTG v2 and Kushina chakra's chains - Where would you put him in top 10
2) KCSM Naruto with FTG v2 and Kushina chaka's chains - Where would you put him in top 10

Do you think First point could be enough or no ?

If not then could Second point be enough or still not... ?

If you think not, then what in your opinion Naruto would need to reach BSM Naruto with Kurama's level ?

My opinion about Naruto versions mentioned by me above places in top 5

Spoiler

top 5 (with SM Naruto with FTG v2 and Kushina chakra's chains)
1. Juubi jin Obito
2. Madara
3. Hashirama
4. EMS Sasuke with PS
5. SM Naruto with FTG v2 and Kushina chakra's chains

top 5 (with KCSM Naruto with FTG v2 and Kushina chaka's chains)
1. Juubi Jin Obito
2. Madara
3. Hashirama
4. KCSM Naruto with FTG v2 and Kushina chaka's chains/ EMS Sasuke with PS
5. Healthy Nagato

Remember gap created by difference of sheer power can be covered by Great skills(SOSP defeated and sealed Juubi)

Thanks for reading !

Please share your thoughts

 

[-immortal-]

EMS sauce > naruto with Pa and ma
EMS sauce > naruto w/o

 

[~Sky~]

I think Naruto needs to awaken a new level of Sage Mode.

Kabuto's DSM is superior to Naruto's, IMO. If Naruto could awaken Kabuto-like SM, plus get FTG, I think he'd be top 5.

 

[KCMNaruto]

EMS sauce > naruto with Pa and ma
EMS sauce > naruto w/o

Off-topic

you are butthurt, get cookie and clear you mind. Really you have to open your eyes and read my thread not writting about your dream.

I think Naruto needs to awaken a new level of Sage Mode.

Kabuto's DSM is superior to Naruto's, IMO. If Naruto could awaken Kabuto-like SM, plus get FTG, I think he'd be top 5.

Most likely , nice idea.

But could it be enough to match BSM Naruto ?... we saw in the manga.

 

[Raekwon26]

B-B-B-But, he has Sage Mode? :yeah:

He doesn't need one, but it'll be funny if he does.

 

[-Spoiler-]

I think Naruto needs to awaken a new level of Sage Mode.

Kabuto's DSM is superior to Naruto's, IMO. If Naruto could awaken Kabuto-like SM, plus get FTG, I think he'd be top 5.

Kabuto Sm was superior due to experiment not something he awaken. the snake sage mode didnt even grant he durability like what the toad sage mode did.

 

[KCMNaruto]

B-B-B-But, he has Sage Mode? :yeah:

He doesn't need one, but it'll be funny if he does.

Lol, please re-read my thread and answer for my question.

Kabuto Sm was superior due to experiment not something he awaken. the snake sage mode didnt even grant he durability like what the toad sage mode did.

^^ True

 

[-immortal-]

Off-topic

you are butthurt, get cookie and clear you mind. Really you have to open your eyes and read my thread not writting about your dream.


Most likely , nice idea.

But could it be enough to match BSM Naruto ?... we saw in the manga.

lel Pa and ma make no difference.

 

[-Spoiler-]

lel Pa and ma make no difference.

you know that ma and pa wasnt mention not even once in OP post right?

 

[KCMNaruto]

lel Pa and ma make no difference.

Just going off topic: alone yes, with frog summons maybe a bit. However do not forget about flying thunder god technique which well utilized with Naruto using his clones to surprise attacks along with frog summons and ma and pa could be formidable opponent.

Anyway you didn't read my thread. I mentioned Kushina's chakra chains + FTG v2... so I still wait for your reply

I think you understimate this hypothetical Naruto.

you know that ma and pa wasnt mention not even once in OP post right?

Lol, exactly

 

[-immortal-]

Just going off topic: alone yes, with frog summons maybe a bit. However do not forget about flying thunder god technique which well utilized with Naruto using his clones to surprise attacks along with frog summons and ma and pa could be formidable opponent.

Anyway you didn't read my thread. I mentioned Kushina's chakra chains + FTG v2... so I still wait for your reply

I think you understimate this hypothetical Naruto.

i don't. we all know naruto has the speed. and tho he hasn't his moms chains. he never did it outside where the seals was kept inside is body.

But KCM cannot defeat EMS sasuke yet. KCSM can't either since sauce has Complete susano/PS

 

[KCMNaruto]

i don't. we all know naruto has the speed. and tho he hasn't his moms chains. he never did it outside where the seals was kept inside is body.

But KCM cannot defeat EMS sasuke yet. KCSM can't either since sauce has Complete susano/PS

Ok I know, but this is "If something" case

Do you really think KCSM Naruto with FTG v2(Minato's master) and Kushina chakra chains(Kushina's mastery) would do no difference at least ?

 

[-immortal-]

Ok I know, but this is "If something" case

Do you really think KCSM Naruto with FTG v2(Minato's master) and Kushina chakra chains(Kushina's mastery) would do no difference at least ?

he hasn't kushina chains.

 

[KCMNaruto]

he hasn't kushina chains.

Lol Mr. smartass BUT IF HE HAS THEM + FTG v2... could it make difference ?

JUST HYPOTHETICAL SITUATION, use your imagination adding Minato's FTG v2 feats and Kshina's chakra chains feats to Naruto.

Just answer this

 

[-immortal-]

Lol Mr. smartass BUT IF HE HAS THEM + FTG v2... could it make difference ?

JUST HYPOTHETICAL SITUATION, use your imagination adding Minato's FTG v2 feats and Kshina's chakra chains feats to Naruto.

Just answer this

now i finally undestand. i didn't eat a cookie. but it would make it yeah. since Kushiha chains > full Kyuubi i would think he could solo most out of top ten. i mean there was almost no escaping thus

 

[KCMNaruto]

now i finally undestand. i didn't eat a cookie. but it would make it yeah. since Kushiha chains > full Kyuubi i would think he could solo most out of top ten. i mean there was almost no escaping thus

Thanks I am glad we agree to this

+ rep for you for giving me answer finally after this long our debate lol

 

[Rokudaime Hokage Naruto]

The thing is, Naruto's avatar was the answer to Susanoo (both big and give good protection). He still would need large jutsus to compete with Susanoo or Hashirama's Bhudda etc

 

[KCMNaruto]

The thing is, Naruto's avatar was the answer to Susanoo (both big and give good protection). He still would need large jutsus to compete with Susanoo or Hashirama's Bhudda etc

Well chakra chains were able to stop Full Kurama... I doubt Sussano is above it, even PS.

He could spam clones and use Mini TBB from all sides teleporting to different angles by using FTG

 

[-immortal-]

Thanks I am glad we agree to this

+ rep for you for giving me answer finally after this long our debate lol

haha. i'm sorry i didn't understand you at first i will not open my mouth so quickly the next time

 

[KCMNaruto]

haha. i'm sorry i didn't understand you at first i will not open my mouth so quickly the next time

no problem friend , the most imporatant is fact that we could finally understood each other