Power is Relative

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Anyone else think that beating someone doesn't exactly make the winner stronger? I think of it like in pokemon. A weak lv. 15 can take down a lv. 25 if it has a move thats 4x super effective (and if it gets a critical its 8x). Take Konan vs Tobi. While she's brilliant for figuring out the ins and outs of his phasing so quickly, she's also one of the only people who could keep up a 10 min long attack like she did. She wouldn't have been anywhere near his power level if she didn't have one of the few moves that was perfect for that particular opponent.

While its fun to speculate, its hard to solidify a heirarchy of characters, and I've noticed a lot of people trying to do that. I think there are just too many variables.
 

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Thats true, but when two people fight to the death. One person dies, the winner lives. There isnt a chance that they will be fighting each other again. There are a few exceptions such as Hashi vs Madara.
 

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Yup...

Sasori vs Chiyo and Sakura....Sasori was easily the strongest combatant present

Kakuzu vs Kakashi, Naruto, and Team 10.....Kakuzu was easily the strongest combatant present. Honestly the plot contributed to his death. No way his experience lets him fall for the same tactic twice in a row.

Pain vs Naruto....Naruto won, but honestly at that point Pain was stronger.


Its deffinatly all about match ups and plot progression....to make an analogy with Pokemon...

Let's say Sasori is a "Puppet" pokemon....he is 2X weak to "Medical" pokemon, and 2X weak to "Puppet" pokemon. Right there he has a 4X weakness agianst Sakura and Chiyo.....they had the prep time to make antidotes while Sasori did not have his prep time to switch out poisons. Chiyo knew every move in his arsenal and how to counter it.....and yet he still almost won if it weren't for his suicide move.
 
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Thats true, but when two people fight to the death. One person dies, the winner lives. There isnt a chance that they will be fighting each other again. There are a few exceptions such as Hashi vs Madara.

But that doesn't mean that they have more power, just the edge in that fight.

Take Konan vs. Tobi again. Lets assume Tobi didn't have Izanagi. He'd still be objectively more powerful than Konan (the phasing, as well as the other uses of Kamui), but Konan would have won the fight.
 

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There is a lot that must be considered when one is winning against an opponent. Location of their battle, time of the day and year, condition of the fighters, advantages and disadvantages when comparing their abilities, etc.

In the end, one person can also win because of luck. In my opinion, what determines the outcome of the battle is not their strength in general, but more their situation at the time.
 
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