MY BIGGEST POST, LOL, NOT MUCH OF IT IS AGREEABLE BY MOST BUT STILL I ONCE USED ALOT OF TIME ON THEM AND THEY CAN BE INTERESTING
A REPOST OF ONE OF MY OLDER POSTS
well, usually we come and predict, as the word prediction suggests, it is something that is uncertain and that leaves us wondering about the result, whether we are correct in our theory or we are not!!, in other words, we are unsure of the theory we give about the future happenings in the manga, and since there is actually no way of really being sure of whether we are correct or not, we call it prediction!!
so, i was thinking that those in this forum who are experts and pro in Naruto, we should stop predicting for a change, and we should prophesize!!, in other words, usually we are uncertain of what we say about the future happenings in the manga, and we only say it as possibilities!, as in we predict, but this time, we should say what we are sure of about the future events or the future revelations in the manga!!, this would make things more interesting here, because uncertainty can be a pain in the butt!, even if you only read - an uncertain post by an uncertain person!!
so basically im just going to say what i am mostly sure of about the future events and revelations in the Naruto Manga regarding certain things, according to what we have as background information,clues, and hints!!, "atleast for the moment!!"
so here are My "Prophecies"...., But first i will start with some theories!!
Regarding Tobis Identity
It Sure seEms to be Obito somehow, at first when the theory of obito was out it sounded ridiculous, but now as i am not repeating anyones theories, i just see it now that it must be Obito, would i have come to this conclusion if i didnt hear the other theories about him?, im almost sure, because you cant deny that i do have a great imagination, and even though i didnt have to imagine it now because of the numerious theories stating that tobi is obito, i did however decide that it must be obito out of my own reasons!, and will explain it now....
I Dont know how tobi is connected to Madara, but he is somehow connected to him, there are countless theories out there about tobis connection to madara, i myself told a whole lot of them!!
as i said, obito could have been a desciple of madaras, or the grandson of madara, or both the desciple and grandson of madaras somehow, or after surviving somehow he maybe found all the secrets of madaras and one final most important secret that madara discovered before he died, including madaras secret life after being abandoned by his comrades and his clan!!
if madara was the teacher or grandfather of obito, it could have gone like this....
A Long time ago, after madaras battle with the first hokage ended, the first hokage left the battlefield thinking that madara was dead and finished, but somewhow, and i dont know exactly how, madara either "Survived" or was "Revived"!! most probably by "Zetsu"....
so, if he was saved by Zetsu, how exactly was he saved by zetsu depends on what zetsu really is!!, it could have been like these...., but first, some possibilities on what zetsu really is....
1-Zetsu is a mysterious creature connected to the sage of the six paths!!
2-Zetsu is an unknown creature not connected to anyone we know, and has his own unique origin!!
3-Zetsu is somekind of a key and is connected to the tailed beasts and the tentailed beast!!
4-Zetsu is a part of the ten tailed beast
5-zetsu is a part of the ten tailed beast or some kind of a key that is connected with it , if he is, then he was created by the sage of the six paths for one or more of these purposes....
1-unseal something, or seal something or both
2-release something, or keep something from being released or both
3-open something, or keep something locked or both
4-seperate something
5-maintain something
6-hold something off/keeping something from doing something
7-reunite something
8-hide something or reveal something, or both
9-revive something, or destroy something, or both
10-complete something
In this case, we will say that "Something" = The Ten Tailed Beast, but only in this case, it could mean other things, but i just dont have the energy to write all the possibilities!!
1-"Unseal something, or Seal something", "Seal something" probably seal the tentailed beast inside the moon, as zetsu does awfully resemble the moon lol, dark and light, moon eclipse and moonlight, and his eyes even, one of them is a full but eclipsed moon, and the other is exactly a half moon!!, "Unseal something", again probably unseal the tentailed beast, since he is the "Key", he is the tool to seal or "Unseal" the tentailed beast from the moon!!, either the whole moon is a seal for the tentailed beast or on the moon or inside the moon there is the seal of the Jyuubi!, which must be Gigantic and Extremely Powerful!!, so zetsu is the only key that can open that seal!!
"oh and by the way, its true that by the tentailed beast, i mean the tentailed beasts "Body", but there is one thing you guys have to know, what the sage of the six path did was seperate the tentailed beasts Chakra from its Body, Divide its Chakra, Spread it all around the world in the form of living beings called "The Nine Tailed Beasts", And he Sealed The Tentailed Beasts Body Inside the Moon!!, so the sage of the six paths seperated jyuubis chakra from its body, divided it, and sealed its body away!!
why go to all the trouble of sealng his body away and in such a big sealing place as the moon?, is it only because he was afraid that someone would revive it?, i think probably because the sage of the six paths olso feared that if he didnt, the tentailed beast would somehow regain his chakra!!, therefore i think the moon is not the only seal that he put on the tentailed beast, i mean sealing him on the moon was not the only thing that he did, he probably olso did somekind of very powerful seal on him to not be able to regain his chakra!! which is where number 6 comes in....
6-"hold something off/keeping something from doing something", the sage of the six paths not only sealed the tentailed beast inside the moon, but he olso did another sealing on it to keep it from regaining its chakra!!, and i believe that the Key to that Seal is "Zetsu"!!
2-"release something, or keep something from being released or both", obviously zetsu is the thing or the key that keeps the tentailed beast from being released from the moon somehow, maybe its not a seal that keeps it there but something else!, and zetsu is thing that keeps the tentailed from being released! and zetsu is olso the thing that can release it!!
3-"open something, or keep something locked or both", maybe there is something else on the moon, something very very powerful, and that thing has a Key, which is "Zetsu", so zetsu can both open it and lock it! lol
4-"Seperate something", as you can see, zetsu is half dark and half light, what it seems like is that zetsu is a "Union" of both dark and light, but it could be the oposite!, so zetsu could actually be a "Seperation" of "Dark And Light", because, i mean even though they are so close to eatchother, and they share the same body, the two "dark and light" seem very different from eatchother and very much unaffected by eatchother!!, although they are both "Evil", which is the one thing that they have in common!, but i will explain that alittle later!!, so what i mean is that zetsu could either be the thing that keeps the jyuubis chakra seperated from its body, or zetsu is the thing that keeps dark and light side seperated from the jyuubi!!, which gives me other theories....
one, that when the sage of the six paths seperated the jyuubis chakra from its body, he olso had to seperate its will which as everyone and everything else is consistent of both "dark and light", and he either put the jyuubis will inside an already existing creature "zetsu", or he Created One!!, he created Zetsu and put the two sides "dark and light" of the tentailed beast and its "Will" inside of him!!, or zetsu actually is the tentailed beast's two sides "dark and light", that Zetsu actually is the Tentailed Beasts "Will" in corporial form!!
second, yes, Zetsu is the Jyuubis "Will", and his "Dark And Light" Sides!, Kyuubi has two sides aswell, i mean even though they are both evil, one of them is Dark and one of them is Light, the light half is inside Naruto, the Dark half until now we are unsure of where it actually is!!, anyway, its only fair that the Jyuubi has has two sides two!, "Dark And Light", and its Zetsu!, i mean en the sage of the six paths seperated the Jyuubis chakra, he olso had to seperate the jyuubis will and these two sides from it!!, i mean the Jyuubi may not have a "Soul" because he is a "Demon", but he does indeed have a "Will", and the sage of the six paths Seperated that will of Jyuubis along with its "Chakra"!!, the SO6P Divided Jyuubis Chakra after seperation and Spread it all around, but he couldnt risk Spreading Jyuubis Will around, its too Evil!! and it would currupt peoples Hearts with it!!, but not only because of that, olso because...., and heres the kicker!....
the sage of the six paths put Jyuubis "Will" and "Mind" inside Zetsu for one very important reason, to seperate it from its "Body and Chakra"!!, why?, think about it, what is naruto doing right now?, his trying to seperate the Kyuubis will and mind from its chakra so that he can control the kyuubi!!, and we all know that the sage of the six paths was jinchuriki of the Jyuubi and he was completely able to control the Jyuubi!! HOW?
i mean if the kyuubi is so hard to control that even narutos great will is not enough to control him!, then how the heck was the sage of the six paths able to control the Infinetly Great And Hateful And Evil Jyuubi??, how did he overcome Jyuubis fearsome Will while trying to control him like naruto?
what i think is simple, he couldnt overcome it! and never could he!, but....
the sage of the six paths found another way so he didnt have to overcome Jyuubis will!!, Since he was a master and creator of ninjutsu, he created a jutsu to seperate Jyuubi from its "Will" and "Mind", and that "Jutsu" was "Zetsu"!!, and so, all that the sage of the six paths was left with was Jyuubis "Chakra"!!, and for some reason, Jyuubis Body!, and this raises the question....
"why and how did the sage of the six paths sealed the Jyuubis Gigantic Body Inside of himself?
How is not important right now, but Why, i think its because Jyuubis Power doesnt only lie in his Chakra!, it olso lies in his Body!!for instance i think either the rinnegan or the sharingan or both was Jyuubis!, and as we know, The Rinnegan And most certainly The Sharingan come from The "Genes", and Genes are the main Designers of the body! and not Chakra!!, so in order for the sage of the six paths to get the rinnegan and the sharingan, he needed to seal the Jyuubis Body inside of himself olso!! and so does madara!!
i mean to prove that my theory is correct, why does madara need to go to all the trouble of putting the tailed beasts chakra back in the Jyuubis body and reviving the Jyuubi ?, i mean if he wanted Jyuubis power, he could just reunite the tailed beasts chakra and make it into one chakra then seal it into himself!!, i mean the sage of the six paths seperated the jyuubis chakra "whole chakra", and "Then" divided it into nine seperate parts!, i mean all madara has to do is reunite it into one chakra and seal it in himself!, but he doesnt wanna do that, because Jyuubis chakra is not its only power! the Jyuubis Body is equally important! and thats why madara need to "Complete it"!!
5-"maintain something", probably maintain the balance between the jyuubis light and dark half!!, or between jyuubis will and chakra!!
7-"reunite something" reunite the ten tailed beasts and make them into one being! and olso to reunite them with the will of the tentailed beast!!
8-"hide something or reveal something, or both", maybe the Jyuubi is not only sealed on the moon, but his olso invisible! so there is no way to find it on the gigantic moon!, and Zetsu is the thing that keeps it hidden!, but zetsu is olso the thing that can reveal it!, zetsus dark half is whats keeping it hidden, and zetsus light half is what can reveal it!!
9-"revive something, or destroy something, or both", obviously like i said, Zetsu may be the key to reviving the Jyuubi, his the key to putting back jyuubis will and mind and chakra back inside of it!!
10-"complete something", the jyuubis power doesnt only lie in its chakra, it olso lies in its body!, so it is not a "Complete Power" without its body, for instance the body contains the Power of a "Ten Tomoed Sharingan" and a Bigger and much more Powerful "Rinnegan"!!, and that maybe one of the reasons why madara said that his plan is to be "Complete"!, and ofcourse olso because as madara said his not the same as before, and the Jyuubi would olso complete him! so basically, his planning to Complete the Jyuubi inorder to Complete himself!! and thats what the whole Moons Eye Plan seems to be! TO COMPLETE!, not to mention to "Completely" conquer the world!! lol
So now back to the possibilities on what Zetsu might be besides being the key to the tentailed beasts seal or something!
6-Zetsu might be somekind of Supernatural creature like a Dark and banished Angel or something!
7-zetsu could be jyuubis sibling or parent or creator! very unlikely! but its still a possibility! lol
8-Zetsu is exactly as he looks! dark and light like the moon, moon eclipse and moonlight, and having fully eclipsed moon eye on his right side and half moon on his left side!, he is the key to the "Moon", as many here said including myself, whenever the kyuubi attacked it seemed that there was a full moon!, maybe "Full Moon" is somehow connected to the tailed beasts! and maybe necessary somehow!, so if needed, zetsu can turn the moon full! or bring it back to normal! to control the tailed beasts probably! maybe a full moon is needed to control the tailed beasts!
but in any case if zetsu is the key to the moon, when madara gets the jyuubi inside himself, he will need the moon to be full to cast the infinite tsukuyoumi, doesnt he? and how would he keep the moon full?, i mean the moon doesnt stay full forever does it??, its funny that noone thought of this yet...., anyway, Zetsu is the key to the moon and he is key that will make the moon stay full forever!! the key to locking the moon in full mode!! and this one of my "Prophecies" because im almost sure of it, atleast its partly true!!, but in any case i will say that im sure of it just now, "right now with the information i have on the manga", and call it a Prophecy!!
9-Zetsu from an unknown origin, like forexample his from an extincted clan or rase!, or his from space or his supernatural like i said! probably a darkened angel, or a demon or mutant! or a halfbreed! etc....
10-Zetsu is the final jutsu of the mangekyou sharingan!!, in other words zetsu is either a summoning of the mangekyou sharingan or actually "a jutsu himself"!!, and he was created when madara awakened his eternal mangekyou sharingan!!, zetsu was either created as reflection or a projection of who tobi is!, tobis, will, body and mind i mean!
i mean if tobi is madara inside obitos "body" then he has like two sides, obito = light side, and madara = dark side, which is why zetsus "body" has olso two sides dark and light!!, and zetsu is evil and ambitious with the same ambition as madara because his olso a projection of madaras will and he has the same ambitions and is able to let the moon stay full because his a projection of what wants!, zetsu is very smart and calm probably olso because his a projection of madaras mind!!
or zetsu is again the key to the moon, the key that can turn the moon full at anytime, and make it stay full forever!!, but he can only be summoned or awakened once you have an eternal mangekyou sharingan!! seems very possible since the sage of the six paths had a habit of making things like this, the tablet that the SO6P left had olso to be read in different levels of the eye! the normal eye, sharingan, mangekyou sharingan, probably eternal mangekyou sharingan, and the rinnegan!!
"there is a possibility that all kekkeigenkais came from the sage of the sixpaths and jyuubi originally!!, i mean since the SO6P created ninjutsu, and since kekkeigenkai = Ninjutsu Based Genes, it means that kekkeigenkai must have been created only after the sage of the six paths time!, after he created ninjutsu!, We are "almost" certain that the rinnegan and sharingan came from the jyuubi, or atleast jyuubi had them somehow!, and if such is true, then its not too farfetched that other kekkeigenkais olso came from the jyuubi!, i mean the nine tailed beasts were created from jyuubis chakra only and still they have inherited characteristics of the jyuubis nature and abilities!!
-look at the fourtailed, its jinchuriki was capable of using Lava Release, a combination of fire and earth, which is not said to be possible without having kekkeigenkai!!, so the four tailed beast kinda gave him a kekkeigenkai!!, and since the fourtailed is a portion of the tentailed beasts chakra, means that this ability must have come from the tentailed beast!!
-one tailed beast is capable of controlling and using wind and sand! and combine them anyway it wants!, and after being hosted, it passed its abilities to gaara, and even after it was out of gaara, it still left its characteristics in gaaras genes!!, a kekkeigenkai was created!!, even if its not a kekkeigenkai yet, it still is pretty close and hints that its on its way to becoming a kekkeigenkai by time!!
fivetailed beast gave its jinchuriki the ability to use boiling release and some other kind of ability i think!!
the other tailed beasts olso gave special abilities to their jinchuriki!, all of which are similar to kekkeigenkais!!, and if all the tailed beasts were created from the jyuubi, then that means their abilities olso came from the jyuubi!, so all these kekkeigenkai-like abilities and not to mention the rinnegan and the sharingan which then was olso just abilities of the jyuubi, they all came from the jyuubi!!, and with a combination of the sage of the six paths special genes, i think this very much hints that kekkeigenkai was derived from the jyuubi!!, and thereby the sage of the six paths!!
So anyway, back to Tobi, it could have gone several ways, but lets take one example....
in his fight with the first hokage, Madaras body was actually damaged alot!, and when the first hokage threw him in the river, he was actually dead!, but wait a sec, if he was dead, then how is he alive now!, well, its true that he was a dead corpse when the first hokage threw him in the river, but it was not exactly madara the first hokage threw in the river!, it was zetsu!!
do you remember in the fight with kisame what we discovered?, we discovered that the dead kisame wasnt actually kisame, and that he was actually just zetsu!, i believe that for the last part of the fight between killerbee and kisame, it was actually zetsu fighting against him as kisame!, and kisame was already hiding inside samehade! probably even since the begining!, you see....
Zetsu seems to have the ability to "Copy" people and their abilities, perfectly!!, if we go too deep in it, i would say that he actually copies their chakra! and due to that, he can copy their abilities!!
now to prove this, do you remember what happened when gai, lee, neji, tenten removed the seals of the akatsuki hideout in the sasori arc?, exact copies of them were made and when they fought, they had the exact same apearance and abilities!!
I Believe that was a jutsu of Zetsus!!
"Zetsu Can Copy People, Their Chakra And Their Abilities Perfectly", thats one of his abilities!!
so if this was the case back then, its no wonder the first hokage didnt notice!!, that madara wasnt actually madara for the last moments of the fight, he was Zetsu!!
so its true that madara didnt die that day, but im still not sure that he is actually tobi!, however, at the same time im almost sure that tobi has some kind of connection to madara!, so whats the deal?, and who is tobi?
well we couldnt really know for sure, but as i said, i want to prophecize this time and not predict, meaning i have to be much more sure, well im quite sure right now that tobi is infact obito, judging by the information we have as of yet!!
So, Tobi = Obito, why?, and what are the signs that leads to that fact?, well im too tired to go all the way to give every detail that hints this is true, but im going to atleast give a few....
-First of all, you guys have to know, that everything can be both explained and "Proved" through sheer "Logic"!!
first i will give a few things that only hint that tobi is obito, things that you have already heard before!
-tobi and obitos name amazingly resemble!, could be a coincedence, could be not!
-when tobi removed his mask, he very much resembled obito!
-minato said that tobi red his every movement the day of the ninetails attack, whos better at knowing his teachers tricks than obito?, perhaps he read his movements so easily because he was his old desciple obito!!
-tobis techniques resemble the fourth hokages but quite improved, seems like a desciple inheriting his masters abilities but surpassing him as usual, in a great way!!
-tobi doesnt show his left eye, hiding his left eye in a mask!, obito lost his left eye to kakashi!
now for some logic....
-obito is always made such an impression on in the manga, its like kishi is hinting to us that there is more to obito than meets the eye!, he even began like that, obito was just a geek, but there was more about him than what met the eye!!, he surprised us then, he is yet to surprise us again!, again the baseline is....
there is more than meets the eye when it comes to obito!
but still this is not nearly enough logic as what has been right infront of us all this time....
-we all know that Rin dissappeared, but why?, what is the point of making her dissappear so mysteriously like that?, one thing i know, is that the mangas and animes etc.... never show anything without purpose, and without reason!!
there is absolutely a reason for rin's dissappearance and it is kept a mystery until now for a good reason!, rins mystery is connected with tobis mystery!, and so rin's dissappearance will only be explained when its time to explain tobis mystery!!
but all and all, joetattoos explaination about tobi and madaras connection seems most probable!!, that madaras soul is inside obitos body!!
anyway, if madara was obitos teacher or grandfather, that would explain the connection between them and the resemblance between their ideology!, possibly his grandfather/teacher's sorrowful life includig his own and all their pain has turned obito into a new man following in his grandfather/teacher's footsteps!, revenge for his grandfather/teacher madara uchiha is his mission and his hopes and dreams are now his own!
to conquer the world!....
