How different would the outcome be? Consider everything he goes through and how different each event would unfold if he had been as strong as he is in the manga right now. Would Ace still be alive if you had Post-Timeskip Luffy in Marineford instead?
[Discussion] Post-Timeskip Luffy goes through Impel Down and Marineford
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Him having control over CoC alone makes a major difference in Marineford being able to take out all the weaklings first leaves more allies from WB to get to Ace and that's less energy wasted on fighting a thousand nobodies. With that being said Impeldown probably would have gone down similar to the original only to give Luffy his ablity to resist poison but the second encounter he would wreck megellon low diff and they might have made it there sooner rather than later as we saw. He probably wouldn't have been able to stop Ace from going to fight Aikanu but he might be able to save him having CoA but then he wouldn't have his signature scar to match his trademark strawhat but in the end I honestly think Ace still would've died he wasn't capable of defeating Aikanu at that current level the guy even got the best of WB given he was a sick old man with fresh wounds it's still WB at the end of the day the guy's a tank inside a tank so Luffy wouldn't be able to defeat Aikanu easily even with Ace there and yes I do believe WB still would've died while Luffy attempts to save Ace .
Mikeuhsomething36
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Results would be the same as he's still not admiral level, he can't even beat doflamingo at full health he had to be injured... A lot first. Although the pacifista would be mincemeat so he wouldn't need an insane amount of help from Boa and it'll be amusing to see him deal with smoker this time
Other than that, Akainau still spanks this child and his brother. The real question is what if luffy and sabo were there post time skip now that mat change somethings
Other than that, Akainau still spanks this child and his brother. The real question is what if luffy and sabo were there post time skip now that mat change somethings
Well at the end of the day Luffy survived Marineford pretimeskip so with him being post timeskip. I don't see Akainu getting the jump on him even if he is stronger than him. Also imagine what a difference Gear 4th would make. Whitebeard and everyone else would be less injured and busy so they would've help preventing Ace's death. All in all, I see Luffy and Ace even Whitebeard coming out of there alive and well. Maybe Whitebeard would've died later because of his injuries but Ace would've definitely survived imo.
Luffy was a wildcard in the war because no one took him serious and rightfully so. It was the war of the best and he shouldn't have been there. He got kicked around by vice admiral level guys and up.
If he would be as strong as he is now he would become a priority and admirals would focus on him and he would never get a chance to reach the platform.
Luffy's only chance to save Ace is to free him from Impel down. He spend a lot of time there fooling around.
If he would be as strong as he is now he would become a priority and admirals would focus on him and he would never get a chance to reach the platform.
Luffy's only chance to save Ace is to free him from Impel down. He spend a lot of time there fooling around.
The only vice admiral he had a tough time with was Smoker because he was a logia and when he fought the others he was exhausted and couldn't fight properly. He could've beat most vice admirals there mid-diff. Also they were all trying to kill Luffy. Especially Akainu, don't say they weren't serious about focusing on him. Also Luffy is a step down from a commander of Whitebeards ship so he wasn't nearly that bad. Not to mention Crocodile was an even bigger ant than Luffy yet he was attacking top tiers and being cocky af while getting away with it somehow.
Uzumaki Macho
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Luffy would free Ace at Impel Down. No one there besides Magellan would be a challenge for him, and Luffy should be able to defeat Magellan based on feats. Luffy can then free Ace since he was never defeated by Magellan and forced to waste several hours with getting cured from the poison.
Relostar Devil
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That's bullshit, so they should've stopped the war because poor little Luffy got tired ? He was a huge distraction for Whitebeard and his impel down friends who had to save his ass countless times. If Luffy was tired it just means he doesn't belong in the war of the best.
Luffy was not vice admiral level pre-skip, he was being toyed with. Those people are like Lucci on steroids. Luffy is not a step down from being a commander on WB's ship. Those are all pirates who sailed the NW for years and held their own in the war.
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I was referring to this specific scene when I was talking about Luffy. He could've easily beaten those guys but he was getting exhausted because Ivankov's hormones were starting to wear off. He couldn't even do Gear Second. These guys are nothing compared to Rob Lucci.
What a joke, there is no way Luffy would beat them let alone Lucci. These guys are implied to be the higher level Vice-admirals. Of course there are some jokes among the ranks of vice-admiral like Maynard (rookie) in Dressrosa. But there were also people like Vergo, garp and the 3 old admirals once in there. There is a big difference in power but Luffy pre-skip wouldn't be able to hold a candle to these guys.
You're just looking for any chance to bash on Luffy. You won't even acknowledge the guy had just gone through a life or death ordeal where his body broke down and he didn't even have a chance to rest. Ivankov gave him a boost of adrenaline that was starting to wear off during this scene and he was still doing fairly well against both of them. He would've whooped both their asses if he had been fresh. The only vice-admirals that Luffy couldn't beat were Smoker, that one dude who handcuffed Marco and Garp. These other guys were fodder who simply found Luffy at a right time.
Not bashing, just realistic. If Luffy needs injections and protection and whatever he doesn't belong in the war of the best.
Lucci was a bad guy during the half way mark of part 1, Vice-admirals are basically the Navy's last line of defense before they have to send in the admirals.
They all have haki and rokushiki, so even pre timeskip they were already a better version of Lucci.
Haven't heard you state a single argument that proves that Luffy is stronger, all based on what you think, not a single fact.
THe only fact is that Luffy had trouble with Lucci who used rokushiki and that all the Vice admirals can use rokushiki and at least 1 type of haki and are being sent to the new world. Just explain how Luffy would beat that.
See? You keep bringing down Luffy for no reason. Based on what he went through with Magellan he had to get injected with adrenaline and it's not something that made him stronger than he normally is. You have yet to state a single argument yourself. I gave you my argument that Luffy wasn't even half his normal self by the time he fought Momonga and the dog guy. You have no proof that these vice admirals are anywhere near as strong as Lucci.
Yes I did, I said that these vice admirals were sent out all over the world including new world to capture strong pirates, and they're the basically the navy's strongest weapons if you don't take the admirals in account (there are only 3 of them and you don't want rely on them all the time). All have rokushiki and a form of haki (that's already 1 more trick than Lucci had) So imagine Luffy having to keep up with someone who fights like Lucci but also have CoO, or a devil fruit power like Dalmation or Tsuru and the Spider guy, or excellent swordskills like Momonga.
You're just delusional if you think that pre time skip Luffy can beat a vice admiral if he can't even beat a Pacifista in full health.
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Just because they know rokushiki doesn't make them stronger than Lucci and neither does having Haki. You can be fodder and still know haki. Also they don't know all forms of rokushiki nor are they close to as good with it as Lucci is who displayed his own techniques that no one else could not to mention Rokuougan. You can also be fodder in the new world so all your arguments make no sense and don't prove anything. Having haki, rokushiki and going to the new world doesn't automatically mean you're strong. Oh and Luffy one shotted a sea king in episode 1, the same one that took the arm of a Yonko.
Rikudou Tobi
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Dude, It's really too bad that One Piece moves pretty slow in this case, because Vice-admirals will come back as enemies at some point. When that happens I really hope I still remember this thread so I can make you eat the biggest can of dicks you can imagine.
There is a difference between the sea monster in episode 1 and the one in this clip that is bigger than a warship. a warship which is about 10 times the size of Thousand Sunny. Momonga took it down with a nameless attack while Zoro had to kill a similar monster before the whitestrom with a 320 pound canon.
instead of telling me that im bashing on Luffy maybe you just have to accept that Luffy was a weak shit pre-skip