Poll: Poll: Who produced the stronger descendants?

[Beatrix]

I think Ashura - Indra's decendents as so self-contained, rigid. Like the Hyuga. Ashura's (my head-canon) married into other clans, no doujutsu to protect etc. So their legacy is stronger, because they endure and survive (in other bloodlines) whereas the Uchiha have almost died out.

Indra's line, with the Uchiha may have been powerful but they were left with this inevitable fate of self-destruction.

 

[ARGUS]

Assuming that things like getting the rinnegan (which is part of ashuras power too) is not counted then ashura definitely had stronger descendants

Ashura > Indra
SM Hashirama > Madara w/Kyuubi >> Madara
BSM Naruto >> EMS Sasuke

 

[King Of Pop]

Assuming that things like getting the rinnegan (which is part of ashuras power too) is not counted then ashura definitely had stronger descendants

Ashura > Indra
SM Hashirama > Madara w/Kyuubi >> Madara
BSM Naruto >> EMS Sasuke

based on what exactly?

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Assuming that things like getting the rinnegan (which is part of ashuras power too) is not counted then ashura definitely had stronger descendants

Ashura > Indra
SM Hashirama > Madara w/Kyuubi >> Madara
BSM Naruto >> EMS Sasuke

Rinnegan is from The Sage,Indra's riencarnations just need Ashura's riencarnations chakra (Ashura's) to get it.

Indra Vs Ashura

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And Ashura didn't produce the Kyuubi so giving Naruto the Kyuubi against Sasuke is unfair in this topic since the Kyuubi is not something he passed on through his bloodline

 

[Pyro NB]

Personally I voted Ashura, but I believe both lineages are pretty equal in terms of just Senju and Uchiha. When talking about feudal era yes Senju are said to be stronger but this is just an overall. For example you have a 5 v 5 and in this battle 3 Uchiha are killed while 2 Senju are killed yes Senju prevail but they still lost people so in short an Uchiha doesn't need Senju cells to beat a Senju rival. Next on my list is the whole Uchiha + Senju blood lineage crap while that lasted like 3 or 4 pgs. Yes Madara and Obito had Senju cells to enhance their power they are still only from the Uchiha and thus are still only from Indra lineage. For example my blood type is o+ so when I donate to some who is b+ he doesn't inherit my family lineage or blood type he will forever be b+. No one would even know he had a transfusion unless he told them. So basically they are Indra descendants who later become Indra descendants with Senju enhanced bodies. Finally to explain why I chose Ashura is because most seem to be forgetting the Uzumaki clan which are blood relatives of the Senju making them descendants of Ashura. As for power they masters of sealing justs and both feared and respected in the shinobi world. They where also feared enough to be whipped out during the shinobi world wars as well as produce two out of three shinobi to survive tail beast extraction.

 

[take it easy]

Rinnegan is from The Sage,Indra's riencarnations just need Ashura's riencarnations chakra (Ashura's) to get it.

Indra Vs Ashura

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And Ashura didn't produce the Kyuubi so giving Naruto the Kyuubi against Sasuke is unfair in this topic since the Kyuubi is not something he passed on through his bloodline

Only Uzumaki due to their bloodline could naturally becoming Kyuubi jinchuuriki and perfectly utilize his power.

 

[Behemoth55]

"most influential"..

Hashirama - makes the village system

Tobirama - responsible for the organizational system of the current shinobi world

Tsunade - Responsible for the medical ninja branch of the shinobi.

Naruto - the man who saved the world


Becoming a villain and having others unite against you, doesn't make you the most influential. Tsunade/Naruto/Tobirama/Hashirama have influenced countries.. Madara only influenced Obito.

And Obito influenced all countries by declaring war against them. Sorry to say that, It seems you didn't know any better character so you had to bring up Tsunade and the stereotypical main character Naruto Uzumaki, who is no direct descendant of Ashura, huh?
In terms of Indora and the Uchiha we have a constant flow of story development and that doesn't count for Ashuras descendants.

 

[Behemoth55]

Only Uzumaki due to their bloodline could naturally becoming Kyuubi jinchuuriki and perfectly utilize his power.

That's just wrong. It is said that Uzumaki are good Jinch. because they usually have strong chakra and with that chakra they could surpress Kurama, so he wouldn't break out. And not they could use Bijū-Power better than any other clan. But you know what the clan with the strongest chakra is the Uchiha actually.

 

[take it easy]

That's just wrong. It is said that Uzumaki are good Jinch. because they usually have strong chakra and with that chakra they could surpress Kurama, so he wouldn't break out. And not they could use Bijū-Power better than any other clan. But you know what the clan with the strongest chakra is the Uchiha actually.

They had special, not strong chakra.

 

[Behemoth55]

They had special, not strong chakra.

According to Kushina all in her village had strong chakra and her own chakra was even stronger. That's why she was sent to Konoha.

 

[take it easy]

According to Kushina all in her village had strong chakra and her own chakra was even stronger. That's why she was sent to Konoha.

Scan please ? I remember that she mentioned only her special chakra.

 

[Behemoth55]

Scan please ? I remember that she mentioned only her special chakra.

raw or translated?

 

[take it easy]

raw or translated?

Translated.

 

[MrLukyso]

Ashura!

Saying Ashura because Nagato came from them, even though 100% of his powers are from Uchiha Madara? Pathetic, and yet it still doesn't change anything.

Indra's descendants are by far stronger at this point. U_U

You people seem to not understand what is the meaning of "Descendant", even if Hashirama implants Rinnegans into his eyes he is still DESCENDANT OF ASHURA and that doesn't change anything at all, yes he now would wield the POWERS OF UChiha and Senju but he still came from ASHURA, just by having someone elses Chakra you do not become his descendat.. and if you think that you are just beyond retarded. Indra's crew is smart and intelligent and always find a way to get stronger even though they are destined to fail against Ashuras.

Prime Madra = there's no one that can even come close to him in Ashuras list

Prime Sasuke = Only Naruto can come close, everyone else gets one-shotted.

Prime Obito = again only Naruto would stand a chance.

Itachi/Shisui and etc are decent level Shinobies and they are way more than enough to clear trash like Karin, Tsunade and all that. U_U


Madara with 1 Eye one shotted and fodderized Edo Hashirama + took his Sage Mode, if you say he would so anything against Dual Rinnegan Madara you are just stupid, end of story.

Indra by far. Only Naruto is at the level of the strongest Indras descendants.

 

[UzumakiWade]

Ohhh wait, i think i get this thread now lol, i thought it was about who produced the stronger reincarnates lmao, well then of course Indra, the uchiha clan is filled with OP f**ks(Madara being the only one that can't be defeated by the ashura team), if were talking about reincarnates, then its probably a tie considering :

Madara> Hashirama
Naruto > Sasuke

 

[MrLukyso]

Ohhh wait, i think i get this thread now lol, i thought it was about who produced the stronger reincarnates lmao, well then of course Indra, the uchiha clan is filled with OP f**ks(Madara being the only one that can't be defeated by the ashura team), if were talking about reincarnates, then its probably a tie considering :

Madara> Hashirama
Naruto > Sasuke

It was that way buy you can't confirm it for Adult version of them. Sasuke was always away on a mission, training, practicing his Rinnegan while Naruto was sitting in the Hokage room, dealing with papers and playing with his Laptop. U_U

 

[UzumakiWade]

It was that way buy you can't confirm it for Adult version of them. Sasuke was always away on a mission, training, practicing his Rinnegan while Naruto was sitting in the Hokage room, dealing with papers and playing with his Laptop. U_U

Ahh the typical defence, cant tell you how many times this argument has already been destroyed. If you've read the latest chapter, we've seen that Naruto does make clones to do other stuff while he works, so maybe he's dealing with papers and playing with his laptop, but thousands of clones of him are out there, training, playing with bolt etc.

 

[MrLukyso]

Ahh the typical defence, cant tell you how many times this argument has already been destroyed. If you've read the latest chapter, we've seen that Naruto does make clones to do other stuff while he works, so maybe he's dealing with papers and playing with his laptop, but thousands of clones of him are out there, training, playing with bolt etc.

Really? Any proof? U_U Playing with Bolt? Do you know why Bolt is mad at Naruto and does all that random stuff? Because Naruto doesn't give him attention, so it only confirms Naruto is not doing any of that..

That was a pathetic argument. :hmm: And as I said You can't confirm it for now and I can't either, so as for now they are Equal.

 

[UzumakiWade]

Really? Any proof? U_U Playing with Bolt? Do you know why Bolt is mad at Naruto and does all that random stuff? Because Naruto doesn't give him attention, so it only confirms Naruto is not doing any of that..

That was a pathetic argument. :hmm: And as I said You can't confirm it for now and I can't either, so as for now they are Equal.

1. So i suppose your denying manga facts? Your denying the fact that in the latest chapter Naruto was playing hide and seek with bolt? Why am i not surprised.
2. Well, you know what they say, to counter a pathetic argument(yours) you gotta use a pathetic argument(mine). I could make the same assumption as you tbh, "Ohhhzzz Sasky iz shownz tu be spendingz timez witz Kareenz in teh last chapta, tat meanz he muzt alwayz spen timez with Kareen!"

If you want to say "Naruto just sits on his laptop all day"
Well im afraid now the argument can be used on you, "Oh Sasuke just spends all his time with karin and doesnt train"

 

[antwquan]

Senju possess the stronger bloodline.......


No Indra's descendent can match a Ashura's descendent without needing Ashura's bloodline help.


Obito - needs Ashura

Madara - needs Ashura to surpass Hashirama

SSasuke -needs ashura (aka Hashirama's dna he has) to take on Naruto

Lol This guy. Sasuke only got Hashirama's DNA from Kabuto so he wouldn't die it had nothing to do with Naruto.

1. If im not mistaken they were well-rested.

2.

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Read the bottom right panel of this page, Naruto said he wanted to punch Sasuke until his eyes opened, key word: wanted. Which means he acknowledged he couldn't because he couldn't move.

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"You still want to fight in your condition?"

Sasuke was not talking about Naruto's inability to move, he was talking about how badly damaged Naruto was. The first panel showed Naruto saying how he can't attack because he still cant move, so obviously Sasuke was not talking the inability to move.

"Of course, I'll never give up!"

Naruto already acknowledged he couldn't move which means he couldn't and was unable to fight, the conversation is obviously not pointing towards the current condition in which they were both unable to move, they were talking about the injuries they suffered from the battle.

So obviously he meant after they were able to move to continue the fight, and Sasuke admitted defeat.

Like i also said before, in a fight, when a fighter admits defeat, that automatically makes the other fighter the champion.

All Naruto said was a bluff he nor Sasuke could move even when they woke up so again how was Naruto gonna fight when he couldn't move and still bleeding?