[Discussion] Poll: How many of you believe that Hagoromo is evil

[Byron123]

Well, by that point; she would be sealed, so showcasing her darker personality through Hagoromo would be moot. It would have been better if Kishi had done it by broken-up flashbacks from Kaguya as she slowly regains her memories. A character's darker personality should be shown by that character only; otherwise the effect diminishes.

No you misunderstood, I'm talking about Hagoromo's darker side. What I said about Kaguya is that through his own flashbacks, he might develop his mother's personality as well.

 

[SasukexNeji]

He's bad news folks...

 

[Ysmir]

I hope Hagoromo is evil..i dont know why, but i wanna see him go all out and show the things Kaguya didn't showed us.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

This is taken from the Tao Te Ching regarding the right conduct of a Sage:

The sage does not strive, tamper, or seek control (ch. 64). He does not endeavor to help life along (ch. 55), or use his heart-mind (xin) to “solve” or “figure out” life’s apparent knots and entanglements (ch. 55). He who will try to do something with the world will fail, he will actually ruin it.

They never make a display of themselves, (chs. 72, 22). They do not brag or boast, (chs. 22, 24) and they do not linger after their work is done (ch. 77). They leave no trace

Seekers see the sage as someone transparently open, without any cleverness at all and, yet, the seeker knows that the sage is obviously no one's fool! This is perhaps what is meant by the words: <The sage is anchored in peace and harmony>. But what the seeker actually sees is that while the sage is not particularly keen to offer any advice, he does so when asked, with a great deal of simplicity, confidence, and utter humility.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

This is from my thread way back in April:

The fact hagoromo talked intellectually proved he is the yin of the two brothers... a true bodhisattva (sage) is able to immediately transcend all cultures and languages and speaks in a simplistic and humble way.
It is no wonder the Rinnegan has all the heretical "Outer Path" connotations, because its owner: Hagoromo, is a heretic, the Sage is darkness.

The introduction of the other brother indicates that Hagoromo and his Bro represents dual opposites: Light and Darkness, which one represents Light and the other Darkness remains to be seen, although with Hagoromo's candor and approach in solving things through subjugation and force it is reasonable to believe he is the Darkness of the two: The Danzo to Hiruzen so to speak, the Rinnegan has all the heretical Outer Path connotations because the original owner Hagoromo is a heretic (as my Buddhist friend said) the only difference between Hagoromo and Kaguya is the degree of their Outer Path Actions: Kaguya is tyrannical while Hagoromo is pragmatic, none the less both ascribed to the Outer Path heresy by seeking peace through stolen power aka Chakra.

 

[Byron123]

This is from my thread way back in April:

Thank you! I was looking for that, I'll add to the OP!

 

[Jimihendrix]

but hagoromo is the yang... as implied by Kaguya... And Hago being the original owner of the yang seal...

but i'll go with whatever Derp says

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

but hagoromo is the yang... as implied by Kaguya... And Hago being the original owner of the yang seal...

but i'll go with whatever Derp says

Well time can change things, originally between Kakashi and Obito, Kakashi was the Yin and Obito was the Yang, afterwards Kakashi became the Yang and Obito became the Yin between their duality.

 

[Aim64C]

He's the Sage of Six Path that the Tailed Beasts respects and love as if he were their own father, and went out of his way to teach Ninshuu and connecting chakra to one another in his attempt for global peace.

Highly, highly, highly doubtful he would be evil.

"Evil" is not necessarily the intent to do harm.

"Evil" in the eastern sense is the lack of conviction that leads one to stop at nothing to impose what they believe is "good."

It is the willingness to do harm in order to achieve what is believed to be a good goal.

It is the belief that one with enough power can -make- or -force- everything to be good.

It does not mean you are necessarily a despicable person. It means that you are against the natural order of the universe and that your actions, no matter how well intentioned, will end up being destructive.

 

[Byron123]

"Evil" is not necessarily the intent to do harm.

"Evil" in the eastern sense is the lack of conviction that leads one to stop at nothing to impose what they believe is "good."

It is the willingness to do harm in order to achieve what is believed to be a good goal.

It is the belief that one with enough power can -make- or -force- everything to be good.

It does not mean you are necessarily a despicable person. It means that you are against the natural order of the universe and that your actions, no matter how well intentioned, will end up being destructive.

That's something interesting!

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

"Evil" is not necessarily the intent to do harm.

"Evil" in the eastern sense is the lack of conviction that leads one to stop at nothing to impose what they believe is "good."

It is the willingness to do harm in order to achieve what is believed to be a good goal.

It is the belief that one with enough power can -make- or -force- everything to be good.

It does not mean you are necessarily a despicable person. It means that you are against the natural order of the universe and that your actions, no matter how well intentioned, will end up being destructive.

And sharing the Outer Path power called Chakra is a transgression of the Dharma, which is the natural law of creation.