Poll: Biggest asspull in the the manga?

[Venomous Cobra]

You can't copy Kekkei Genkai, and Kakashi saw PS, like, twice, and I'm pretty sure both times were without Mangekyo Sharingan. It doesn't matter how many times you see someone else do something, unless you practice it yourself, you can never master it.

How did sasuke master amatarsu then? How did he even leaned how to control sousano?

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Madara using Kamui despite being the Juubi Jin
Madara using Susanoo without eyes
Obito coming back from the dead and magically giving Kakashi his eyes.

 

[Loki d]

The Madara - with no eyes - Susanoo was theorized to be manifested by his chakra. It was backed by the Databook and Manga, where Sasuke going blind and still using Sasunoo.

Obito coming back was explained by Kishi. "Chakra connects both worlds" However, that is still an asspull to me.

How when Minato did the same thing, this has been going on for a while with the Edo tensei the dead coming from the other world because their DNA contains chakra. People are stupid

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

How did sasuke master amatarsu then? How did he even leaned how to control sousano?

Sasuke mastered Amaterasu in the Killer Bee fight and at the Kage summit.Same thing with Susanoo.

 

[hixa kuogame]

You can't copy Kekkei Genkai techniques. This argument is instantly wrong.

Yes you can. If you possess the capabilities why couldn't you? If Kakashi was given mokuton corresponding chakra, he could copy mokuton techniques. If Kakashi didn't have at least mangekyo sharingan then it wouldn't make sense.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

How when Minato did the same thing, this has been going on for a while with the Edo tensei the dead coming from the other world because their DNA contains chakra. People are stupid

Minato left a chakra inprint while Obito flatout came back from the dead.They'e not the same.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Sasuke mastered Amaterasu in the Killer Bee fight and at the Kage summit.Same thing with Susanoo.

He used but didn't train on how to use it, he just magically used it now ain't that asspull?

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Yes you can. If you possess the capabilities why couldn't you? If Kakashi was given mokuton corresponding chakra, he could copy mokuton techniques.vIf Kakashi didn't have at least mangekyo sharingan then it would make sense.

The flaw with that argument is Madara fought Hashirama for years and couldn't use Mokuton until he came back as a Edo because of Kabuto's modifications despite getting his DNA and chakra after the VOTE fight.It's been stated since Part 1 that the Sharingan can't copy KKG or any techniques derived from it.

 

[RicardoA]

Most likely, yes. Can't remember anything worse right now.
I was genuinely like 'watafuk' and i don't remember this happening to me while reading Naruto ever. One thing is a surprise or a plot twist, but this was completely random and simply unecessary.

 

[Kamui Sama]

Madara absorbing Amaterasu without eyes still baffles me

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

He used but didn't train on how to use it, he just magically used it now ain't that asspull?

He trained off screen inbetween those events,Juugo even made a comment about Sasuke wanting to try out Susanoo during the fight with A.

 

[hixa kuogame]

The flaw with that argument is Madara fought Hashirama for years and couldn't use Mokuton until he came back as a Edo because of Kabuto's modifications.It's been stated since Part 1 that the Sharingan can't copy KKG or any techniques derived from it.

Madara didn't have mokuton chakra or Senju DNA, at least, to use Mokuton. If he did have something like DNA, then why wouldn't he be able to copy Mokuton techniques when he is completely capable of performing them?

 

[Jimmy page]

Biggest one.

 

[iNotorious]

Of course it was, expecting more asspulls the next 5 chapters, we need more power ups!

 

[Urda]

How when Minato did the same thing, this has been going on for a while with the Edo tensei the dead coming from the other world because their DNA contains chakra. People are stupid

Why people use that as an argument, I don't know. No. What Minato did was place some of his chakra, along with Kushina, insides of Naruto Seal.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

He trained off screen inbetween those events,Juugo even made a comment about Sasuke wanting to try out Susanoo during the fight with A.

You can't just say he was training inbetween , it was stated that sasuke was recovering from his fight with itachi so how did he learn it even though he was damaged?

 

[Avani]

An explanation doesn't make not an asspull. If chakra somehow connects both worlds, why didn't Itachi come to Sasuke and console him and personally ask him to protect Konoha before being resurrected?

Why didn't Orochimaru's parents come to console him?

Why didn't Jiraiya come to console Naruto and Tsunade? Why didn't Dan come to console Tsunade?

Why didn't Kakashi's father come to Kakashi and talk to him instead of just sitting at a spiritual campfire?

Why didn't Sasori's parents come to him?

Why didn't Asuma come back and laugh at Hidan or curse out Hidan?

None of them were Sage of the 6 path for even a few seconds and had Kamui to top.

Hasn't chakra and powers lingered before?

Dead Minato and Kushihna left his chakra to do the "talk" or help fighting Kurama.

Sage Hogomoro is just floating around somehow even after his death ( beasts said he separate them before death and died). Gives chakra and powers to both Naruto and Sasuke. (How much he had initially?)

Indra and Ashura are transmigrating.

Dan went to visit Tsunade and gave rest of his chakra to Tusnade before disappearing again. (chakra transfer from spirit)

Gara was able to be revived by some jutsu and can also use sand now on seemingly greater level(?? but yea) without Shukaku.

Kinkaku and ginkaku using Kurama 's chakra for it got ingrained with the contact they had for short period.

It's not like first time something like this happened. Kamui's connection between the two was also stated before. Now Obito could have given the eye before he died but then Kakashi would might have had them permanently. Of course Kishi let him spend that time talking to Naruto. He couldn't make the death slow enough to lend eyes as well as has his long talk to Naruto. And he many not want to give Kakashi a permanent double sharingan. ( not sure about this part)

Susano requirements got corrected when Madara used it while blind. Unless story ends one can only speculate abilities and writers fix it as they need to.

Now you may not like the development or how he used his options and all that but at least stop spamming the same thread topic you guys. -_-

People getting enraged on behalf of another character who was out-shined (most likely only temporarily- Sasuke will get his panel time I believe) Or fanboying over Kakashis temp power are just...

 

[Urda]

Who says you need a Space-Time technique? Obito said our chakras are connected to the living world, meaning the connection, and therefore the ability to transverse, is there regardless, Obito's Space-Time technique is just his medium.

I don't write this shit and you might be right. :|

Madara absorbing Amaterasu without eyes still baffles me

Amaterasu is manipulated by chakra, hence.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Madara didn't have mokuton chakra or Senju DNA, at least, to use Mokuton. If he did have something like DNA, then why wouldn't he be able to copy Mokuton techniques when he is completely capable of performing them?

Because seeing a technique and doing it are two separate things,Madara had Hashi's DNA but couldn't use his techniques until after Kabuto modified his body as a Edo.

There's a reason he only used the low leveled Mokuton techniques such as the Tree jutsu,Wood clones,Flower Tree World,Wood Dragon,and not the higher leveled ones like the Wood God or Buddha.

The latter two and Wood Dragon are the Mokuton techniques Madara saw Hashi using in their fight but didn't or could'nt perform them for reasons unknown.

Just because he has Hashi's chakra and the ability to copy his Mokuton techs doesn't mean Madara could perform them on the same level or all of them for that matter.

 

[Genjin]

Do you believe this was the biggest asspull in the manga by Kishi? Feel free to say why or why not as well.

Atm I can't think of any greater so I'm thinking yes.
The fact that Obito just Kamui'd into Kakashi brain from the Other world was just too much for me lol.

Sasuke getting saved a couple times just right before he dies. :|