Plotholes

[Angelic.]

^^ controlling the bijuu first?

 

[Kirokill]

Because their both the same jutsu just works a little differently.

He meant it, as how did they both come op with the same name, there isn't supposedly a banner saying "Welcome to Kamui Land" in the Kamui dimension.

because it's an eye technique .

what r u saying ?

Edos are ash, nothing blood except a sacrifice. Amaterasu causes eye strain which makes the eye bleed, but how can it bleed with no blood in the body, if they are edos. The strain does not weaken the eye though for EMS users.

To the second point he was mentioning when Edos bled.

 

[Styles]

How Obito controlled perfect Jinchuriki, if genjutsu doesn't work on them, lol.

Because he's just that damn good

 

[Kratoss]

How Obito controlled perfect Jinchuriki, if genjutsu doesn't work on them, lol.

Who are you talking about?

 

[ChocolateVanilla]

Who are you talking about?

Yagura ......"..

 

[Deadboy]

Correct me if I am wrong but didn't they say to create the forbidden fruit they need to perform IT to provide the chakra for it. How did the original fruit get maid in the first place, and shouldn't there be a fruit from the first time Kaguya casted IT? Also, how did the world repopulate if everyone turned into white zetsu from the first IT?

 

[roncato]

Who are you talking about?

He controlled 4th Mizukage the whole time with genjutsu.

 

[Styles]

He meant it, as how did they both come op with the same name, there isn't supposedly a banner saying "Welcome to Kamui Land" in the Kamui dimension.

Probably because when you awaken an eye technique you automatically learn the name take Sasuke for example how does he know what Kagutsuchi/Enton is if he never heard it?

 

[BLAZE]

what r u saying ?

uses susanoo without eyes,absorbs amaterasu without eyes,Stomps tailed beasts with one limbo shadow.

 

[Meee]

Minato's face being on the Kage mountain when Obito was alive.

Not sure about this but Jiraiya showing Nagato the Rasengan.

 

[roncato]

Minato's face being on the Kage mountain when Obito was alive.

Not sure about this but Jiraiya showing Nagato the Rasengan.

Lol what? I don't remember this happening.

 

[BLAZE]

Minato's face being on the Kage mountain when Obito was alive.

Not sure about this but Jiraiya showing Nagato the Rasengan.

that was drawing error.
like when sasuke though about Village their was tsunade's face on mountain which was built after sasuke defected

 

[FranklinGTAV]

How Obito controlled perfect Jinchuriki, if genjutsu doesn't work on them, lol.

you have that answer in the manga :|

^^ controlling the bijuu first?

what are you trying to say?

He meant it, as how did they both come op with the same name, there isn't supposedly a banner saying "Welcome to Kamui Land" in the Kamui dimension.



Edos are ash, nothing blood except a sacrifice. Amaterasu causes eye strain which makes the eye bleed, but how can it bleed with no blood in the body, if they are edos. The strain does not weaken the eye though for EMS users.

To the second point he was mentioning when Edos bled.

i still need an answer about madara , well... it's still an edo technique nonetheless , since amaterasu is a "blood requirement" when you use it , being an edo wouldn't be the case , that's why itachi got blind after using izanami.

 

[Kratoss]

uses susanoo without eyes,absorbs amaterasu without eyes,Stomps tailed beasts with one limbo shadow.

You only need the mangekyo to awaken Susanno, the eyes don't need to be active in order to use it. It's a manifestation of Chakra.
It was stated that you need the mangekyo to awaken the Susanoo, but nothing more after that. It wasn't directly stated that you need the eyes to be active, to use it. Susanoo is an ability granted to those who awaken the powers of both their Mangekyō Sharingan.

In chapter 560, Madara used the Susanoo, while having the Rinnegan activated, and not his mangekyo.

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And Itachi the first person to use Susanoo in the manga, didn't have his mangekyo active.

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I don't remember the ametarasu absorb thing.

 

[Meee]

that was drawing error.
like when sasuke though about Village their was tsunade's face on mountain which was built after sasuke defected

maybe but isn't that a plothole? I mean the definition I got was something illogical or inconsistent in the plot and that's what it is.

Lol what? I don't remember this happening.

which one? the Minato face was the first flashback after Obito's reveal, idk about the Jiraiya one, I saw it in the anime so it might just be an anime fck up.

 

[Kratoss]

maybe but isn't that a plothole? I mean the definition I got was something illogical or inconsistent in the plot and that's what it is.

It's just a drawing error though. It would be different if it was stated by a character that Minato was the hokage during Obito flashback.

I mean a lot of times mangaka's have mishaps like this in the art, as long as it's not a direct inconsistency in the plot, it's not a plot hole.

 

[Styles]

You only need the mangekyo to awaken Susanno, the eyes don't need to be active in order to use it. It's a manifestation of Chakra.
It was stated that you need the mangekyo to awaken the Susanoo, but nothing more after that. It wasn't directly stated that you need the eyes to be active, to use it. Susanoo is an ability granted to those who awaken the powers of both their Mangekyō Sharingan.

In chapter 560, Madara used the Susanoo, while having the Rinnegan activated, and not his mangekyo.

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And Itachi the first person to use Susanoo in the manga, didn't have his mangekyo active.

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I don't remember the ametarasu absorb thing.

Lawl that Madara scan is why some.... not so bright people think PS is a Rinnegan technique.

 

[FranklinGTAV]

uses susanoo without eyes,absorbs amaterasu without eyes,Stomps tailed beasts with one limbo shadow.

.... you guys are still with this? geez ...

 

[Indora]

Madara's defeat

 

[Darkakatsuki]

How Obito controlled perfect Jinchuriki, if genjutsu doesn't work on them, lol.

Possibly because Yagura only became a 'perfect' jinchuuriki BECAUSE Obito. If you don't get what I mean, think of the edo jinchuuriki, out of all of them, only Yagura was known to be a perfect jinchuuriki, but when Obito was controlling them, they all used their bijuu powers just like a perfect jinchuuriki (ie. Half transformations, version two state, and full transformation), and that was primarily because Obito was controlling both the jinchuuriki and the bijjuu seperately but using their powers in conjunction. In conclusion, I believe that Yagura's without Tobi controlling him would have been an 'imperfect' jinchuuriki like Naruto used to be, because even when you look at the timeline, you see that Madara was already influencing/controlling/manipulating Kiri even before Yagura became a jinchuuriki, because at the time Rin was the sanbi jinchuuriki. Likely fact is that Obito controlled Yagura as soon as the sanbi was sealed into him, and probably controlled the sanbi itself before it was sealed into him. Which ever way you look at it, there is no timeframe where Yagura would have been out of Obito/Madara's clutches, certainly not enough for him to train and master his jinchuuriki powers on his own.