[Theory] Plotholes on chapter 633.

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Hi! Just wanted to point out a couple of plotholes that I found on the new chapter.

1st, Sensing the Juubi.

It was clearly stated by Kurama, during the Juubi's first appearance, that it cannot be sensed.
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Yet on the latest chapter, Ino/Shika/Chou was able to sense it's underlings.
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Problem: how were they able to sense the Juubi if it is un-sense-able?
Theory: maybe the underlings' nature have been modified or just simply different from the Mother/Father Juubi.


2nd, Rasengan Nature modification.

During Minato and Naruto's first confrontation(Pain--Konoha arc), Minato said that he's been observing events from within Naruto. Specifically Jiraiya's death and the destruction of Konoha.
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But on the latest chapter, he(Minato) seemed to be surprised/amazed/awed upon seeing Naruto's Fuuton: Rasenshuriken.
Reference:


Problem: why was Minato surprised upon seeing Naruto's F: RS when Naruto has been using it since his battle with Kakuzu?
Theory: maybe he was just awed upon seeing it upfront.


So, there you have it!

Please feel free to discuss your thoughts and theories about these instances. Thank you for looking! :)
 
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Another plothole is Gamakichi grown up so much. He was stil lpretty little during the Pain's attack arc, and now he's of Gamabunta's size.
 

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Don't forget Sasuke having snakes as his summoning again. <(-.-<) Also having a snake larger than Manda
 

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Lol...well the Ino-Shika-Cho one is the easiest.

The Juubi's total concentration of chakra is way to immense; however, if he breaks off small parts of him...it is detectable. Remember Naruto could use Sage Chakra to sense it, but it was just TOO LARGE to actually measure.

As for his dad...yeah kinda plot hole-ish O.o!

DON'T REMIND ME OF KAKUZU'S DEATH :nuts:
 

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None of you noticed that the toad is Gamakichi O_O
How the hell can Gamakichi be so huge in such short time >_>
 

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1st : They're clones , not the Juubi itself .

Clones can be sensed though.

2nd : Idk about that .
 

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Another plothole is Gamakichi grown up so much. He was stil lpretty little during the Pain's attack arc, and now he's of Gamabunta's size.
There is a 1 year timeskip between the Kage Summit and the war
 

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None of you noticed that the toad is Gamakichi O_O
How the hell can Gamakichi be so huge in such short time >_>

I've posted it before you in this thread :P It's strange and irrational thing indeed

There is a 1 year timeskip between the Kage Summit and the war

Woah, never heared of this. Where's it stated? O_O
 

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good job mate!
 

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Well, first of all, Ino is a goddess so she can sense them. Dont argue.

Second is that, well, the Minato inside Naruto's head, STAYED in Naruto's head.
 

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Didn't even notice the Juubi's droppling things. Maybe they didn't exactly sense them, but Shikamaru's shadow linked her to them and she felt up their locations.
 

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Didn't include the summons issues because:

Gamakichi's growth-- Summons must've had different growth rates, and he must've done some things during his absence on pages/on screen.

Snake-- As stated by other members on other threads, there might've been alot of other Snakes on Mt. Snake(forgot the name).

Slug-- Same as the reason as for the Snake.


Summon's sizes:
They might've been smaller than we think, let's just wait and see next week. Then again, I might need to review that last page. :)
 

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None of you noticed that the toad is Gamakichi O_O
How the hell can Gamakichi be so huge in such short time >_>

Puberty and its wonders :T_T:
 

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Hi! Just wanted to point out a couple of plotholes that I found on the new chapter.

2nd, Rasengan Nature modification.

During Minato and Naruto's first confrontation(Pain--Konoha arc), Minato said that he's been observing events from within Naruto. Specifically Jiraiya's death and the destruction of Konoha.
Reference:


But on the latest chapter, he(Minato) seemed to be surprised/amazed/awed upon seeing Naruto's Fuuton: Rasenshuriken.
Reference:


Problem: why was Minato surprised upon seeing Naruto's F: RS when Naruto has been using it since his battle with Kakuzu?
Theory: maybe he was just awed upon seeing it upfront.


So, there you have it!

Please feel free to discuss your thoughts and theories about these instances. Thank you for looking! :)

well my prediction is that he knew all because he was inside of him... after he repair the seal he disappeared and so does the things he knew it's not like he would be transferred his knowledge.....
sry. for my eng.
 

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If you have infinity and split a part of it to 100 , you will have 100 and that can be sensed ( not logical in the real world , but i guess that is what Kishi thinks ... just speculation ) . In realty , inf / x is inf again ...

As for rasengan , when i was reading it in japanese (raw) ,i think it was write something that is close to evolve ( it also can mean , made it batter , in that matter ), evolution , rather then change or transform ...
 

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well my prediction is that he knew all because he was inside of him... after he repair the seal he disappeared and so does the things he knew it's not like he would be transferred his knowledge.....
sry. for my eng.

Nice theory. :D
 

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The Minato in his head is not connected tone real one that was in the death god. And the others explained the juubi clones.
 

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For that Juubi case, it's not that the Juubi can't be sensed but its power limits are unlimited so naruto couldn't sense its total power because it's chakra are non-measurable(don't know why but it's the fact given by the writer).That's why the Hokages could also feel its presence from far distance too..

And for that second case, Minato's soul was within Death Reaper's seal ( or locked inside it) and before being sealed,he had sealed and inserted some of his chakra (as memory) inside naruto. So, the one seeing all that was just his chakra not actually his soul and with that small talk with naruto his chakra's all gone... Maybe that's why he was amazed after seeing that with himself.
 
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