Plothole: When did Hagoromo become a Juubi Jin?

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I. Manga: Juubi was sealed inside Hagoromo

1.) Hagoromo: ..................sealed it inside of me.

Hagoromo and Hamura sealed the Juubi inside the former:

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2.) Inspired by his younger son, Hagoromo separated the Ten-Tails within his body and used his Creation of All Things ability to divide it into nine separated bodies, creating the tailed beasts and giving each a name.

As a result of extracting them(Tailed Beasts) all at once, Hagoromo was left weakened and incapacitated for several months, though the powerful life force of the Ten-Tails' husk(Gedo Mazo) kept him alive:

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II. Manga Chapters 690 and Up + Databook: When did Hagoromo become a Juubi Jin?

1.) Kaguya/Juubi was sealed by Hagoromo and Hamura using Rikudo Chibaku Tensei:

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2.) Hagoromo and Hamura created the moon:

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Ever since "humans" were given form, they have fought each other and walked in a world of war. The earth was stained with blood, and as if it were absorbing that blood for nourishment, the Shinju took root in the earth. Eventually the Shinju beared a single fruit, and a certain clan came from another world seeking that fruit: the Ootsutsuki clan. Kaguya, leader of the Ootsutsuki, ate the fruit and became the progenitor of all chakra, and with her absolute power brought peace to the world in an instant.

After ending the turbulent era, she became known as the Rabbit Goddess and received the blessing of the people, giving birth to twins. But after that, Kaguya would occasionally use harsh means to rule the people as a dictator. The Byakugan, Sharingan, and Infinite Tsukuyomi - the people feared and respected the jutsu Kaguya wielded. Eventually, the "Rabbit Goddess" became known as a demon instead. And then, Kaguya became ruled by her desire to make all chakra her own.

To make all chakra one - Kaguya's desire eventually turned on Hagoromo and Hamura, her own twin sons with whom she had split her chakra. Kaguya formed a plan, and in order to take in all chakra, fused with the Shinju and battled against her twin sons.

The twins, assuming that the Juubi was a transformed Shinju attacking them in order to reclaim the chakra that was taken from it, faced off against it. And after a fierce battle, the activated Rikudou Chibaku Tensei. They turned it into the moon and sealed it away.


Caption next to Hamura on the last page: The Gedou Mazou, the remaining shell of the Juubi, was sealed in the moon. Hamura took command of the clan to watch over the Mazou.
 
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Maybe he summoned the mazo back on earth ?
 

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give me 50 bucks and then i will tell you!
 

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Interesting, didn't think about this.

The answer is BZ tampering with the stone tablet.
 

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Yeah, that is extremely inconsistent.
 

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i think hagoromo sealed it in himself after the fight and sealed its shell(gedo mazou) in the moon alongside hamura....later he split them up in 9 pieces
 

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I think in the spent of time after juubi is sealed, hagoromo when back to summon it from a moon and absorb it, and after that he split the chakra into 9 saperated entities,

After that he sealed it back I mean gedo mazo into the moon back, how many moon it was at that time, dont ask me.

but that what Im thinking off, on the data book said hamura sent his clan to guard the moon, and maybe that time many thing happen that not been explained in the manga.
 
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Interesting, didn't think about this.

The answer is BZ tampering with the stone tablet.

90% of the scans have nothing to do with BZ, it's Hagoromo, Kurama and Kaguya's memories and statements.

i think hagoromo sealed it in himself after the fight and sealed its shell(gedo mazou) in the moon alongside hamura....later he split them up in 9 pieces

Nope, Gedo Mazo was left inside Hagoromo when he created Kurama and the others.
 

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I think in the spent of time after juubi is sealed, hagoromo when back to summon it from a moon and absorb it, and after that he split the chakra into 9 saperated entities,

After that he sealed it back I mean gedo mazo into the moon back, how many moon it was at that time, dont ask me.

but that what Im thinking off, on the data book said hamura sent his clan to guard the moon, and maybe that time many thing happen that not been explained in the manga.

Are you telling me that they fought the Juubi twice?

1.) Hagoromo: ..................sealed it inside of me.

Hagoromo and Hamura sealed the Juubi inside the former:

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Are you telling me that they fought the Juubi twice?

1.) Hagoromo: ..................sealed it inside of me.

Hagoromo and Hamura sealed the Juubi inside the former:

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Do you forgot that madara can just absorb juubi without even need to fight. And that just one rinnegan madara. Do you forgot about that?

This is hagoromo, the person that more powerful and knowlegeable than madara, sure he can do batter.
 

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90% of the scans have nothing to do with BZ, it's Hagoromo, Kurama and Kaguya's memories and statements.



Nope, Gedo Mazo was left inside Hagoromo when he created Kurama and the others.

according to obito...it doesnt make any sense that way

how i can explain it is that hago removed the chakra from the juubi thus only the shell remained(gedo mazou) which was sealed by both hago and hamura to the moon because it contained kaguya`s will...then hago and hamura sealed the juubi`s chakra inside hagoromo somehow....just a theory
 
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according to obito...it doesnt make any sense that way

Huh?

The part 1 number 3 is the only statement from Obito and it does make sense after part 1 number 2 when Hagoromo created Kurama and the others, then he proceed in sealing the Gedo Mazo to the moon.

Read part 1 number 2 please.

Again, all the scans except part 1 number 3, are from Hagoromo, Kurama and Kaguya.
 

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Hagoromo was Ten tails host no matter how you look at it.

Earlier version: Hagoromo and Hamura fought Ten tails-> seal it in Hagoromo-> Hagoromo becomes Host->At deathbed Hagoromo extract Ten tails chakra and using Yin-Yang release shape them and breath life into them so they become Tailed beasts-> Hagoromo extract Gedo Mazou and create core of it for moon then die

Last version: Hagoromo and Hamura fought Ten tails-> send the empty husk Gedo Mazou into sky creating the moon while whole Ten tails chakra is sealed in Hagoromo-> At the death bed Hagoromo extract Ten tails chakra and using both Yin-Yang relase shape them and breath life into them so They become Tailed beasts-> Hagoromo dies.

Problem with 1 version: Noone
Problem with 2 version: Hagoromo could not survive long after extracting Ten tails chakra and creating tailed beasts out of it + Hagoromo didn't create the Moon on his death bed

Either way Hagoromo being Ten tails host is fact and it is safe as I proved it fit both versions and it happened at the same time.
 

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Hagoromo was Ten tails host no matter how you look at it.

Earlier version: Hagoromo and Hamura fought Ten tails-> seal it in Hagoromo-> Hagoromo becomes Host->At deathbed Hagoromo extract Ten tails chakra and using Yin-Yang release shape them and breath life into them so they become Tailed beasts-> Hagoromo extract Gedo Mazou and create core of it for moon then die

Last version: Hagoromo and Hamura fought Ten tails-> send the empty husk Gedo Mazou into sky creating the moon while whole Ten tails chakra is sealed in Hagoromo-> At the death bed Hagoromo extract Ten tails chakra and using both Yin-Yang relase shape them and breath life into them so They become Tailed beasts-> Hagoromo dies.

Problem with 1 version: Noone
Problem with 2 version: Hagoromo could not survive long after extracting Ten tails chakra and creating tailed beasts out of it + Hagoromo didn't create the Moon on his death bed

Either way Hagoromo being Ten tails host is fact and it is safe as I proved it fit both versions and it happened at the same time.

Inspired by his younger son, Hagoromo separated the Ten-Tails within his body and used his Creation of All Things ability to divide it into nine separated bodies, creating the tailed beasts and giving each a name.

As a result of extracting them(Tailed Beasts) all at once, Hagoromo was left weakened and incapacitated for several months, though the powerful life force of the Ten-Tails' husk(Gedo Mazo) kept him alive:

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Are you saying that there are 2 Gedo Mazo? 1 inside the moon and 1 inside the dying Hagoromo?
 

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Inspired by his younger son, Hagoromo separated the Ten-Tails within his body and used his Creation of All Things ability to divide it into nine separated bodies, creating the tailed beasts and giving each a name.

As a result of extracting them(Tailed Beasts) all at once, Hagoromo was left weakened and incapacitated for several months, though the powerful life force of the Ten-Tails' husk(Gedo Mazo) kept him alive:

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Are you saying that there are 2 Gedo Mazo? 1 inside the moon and 1 inside the dying Hagoromo?

No... I just wanted to show how earlier version told us story work until chapter 690.

and how the story of later version told us story work afterr 690+

As I said No matter how you look at it Ten tails host Hagoromo happened and it was at the same time and it happened after Ten tails was beaten up and sealed.
 

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the problem is that hagoromo didnt create the moon o his bed and therefore didnt seal the gedo in the moon at that time because moon was created by both hamura and hagoromo when they fought the juubi....meaning the only logical conclusion is that the gedo was sealed in the moon when it was created...and not on sage`s deathbed...which means he was a jinchuuriki without the gedo mazou somehow...similar to how naruto is,in some way?
 
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