Plothole: Obito's Mangekyou Sharingan

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Am I incorrect in saying that Obito Uchiha has the Mangekyou Sharingan? And am I correct in saying the ability he unlocked with the Mangekyou Sharingan is the Kamui? And Kamui of course is the jutsu that let's him transport parts of his body to his own little pocket universe with a very powerful Space-Time Ninjutsu. Now my question is, why was it just now revealed here in Chapter 598
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Because Tobi/Obito has been seen transporting himself with Time-Space Ninjutsu with only his Sharingan activated. So does that mean he can use Kamui with his normal Sharingan? But how does that make sense?

Am I an idiot? Comment your thoughts
 
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Maybe he just need the mangekyou to use the technique
 

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they didnt wanna spoil.. plot no jutsu
 

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the answer is yes he can use kamui without MS activated
 

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Actually, I don't think they've ever actually shown him teleporting with his sharingan activated at the same damn time lol.
 

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then why can't Sasuke or Itachi or Madara use Susan'oo without Mangekyou active?

susanoo is a different jutsu plus you need ama/tsuku to use it and they are MS jutsu

plus theyre diff people , and ita and sas don't have senju dna

nor were they trained by madara
 

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his hashi cells increase the power of his sharingan 100 fold
 

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Kishi trying to make it harder for us to guess who he was I guess.
 

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susanoo is a different jutsu plus you need ama/tsuku to use it and they are MS jutsu

plus theyre diff people , and ita and sas don't have senju dna

nor were they trained by madara

all you need is two mangekyos to use susano, madara doesnt have amaterasu but he has susano!
 

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obito had a mask on XD so WE couldn't see his EYE while he used it
 

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obito had a mask on XD so WE couldn't see his EYE while he used it
It was on his right eye, so we should've been able to see it if he used MS.

Obito can use Kamui without MS because plot no jutsu in order to protect his identity.
 
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Since Hashi's cells empower the sharingan, there wasn't any need for him to use the mangekyo sharingan, i guess.
 

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madara has senju dna, you don't see him using kamui do you?
 

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all you need is two mangekyos to use susano, madara doesnt have amaterasu but he has susano!

rumor has it from what itachi and sasuke said you need the 1st and 2nd power to unlock susanoo

in the databook or whatever............

but I think itachi said HIS unlocked a 3rd power not necessarily that having AMA or TSUKU did
 

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but why can Kakashi only use it with Mangekyou Sharingan activated then?
 

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madara has senju dna, you don't see him using kamui do you?

Kamui and KA are maybe special to their users...
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I ALSO HAVE ANOTHER THEORY ON WHY KAMUI EXISTS
 

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if they showed his mangekyo, people would say "hey, that isnt madara" "thats kakashis mangekyo" and "its obito"
 
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