[Discussion] Plot parts I think are just plain dumb AF

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1.Minato and Hashirama are being underplayed to show Naruto and Sasuke.
2.Orochimaru aint done shit since he made his debut on the field.
3. Where is Madara? Does he not care that the K11 are whopping Obito's ass?
4. Obito aint done shit on the offensive, he just seems to not really want to win
5. Nobody questions Naruto is the son of Minato the Fourth Hokage
6. Minato doesnt know Naruto has sage mode, even tho he saw it through Naruto
7.

8. Jiraiya suddenly has sage mode, but never uses it against Orochimaru when Naruto and Tsunades life was on the line. Kishi hadnt thought of it yet :|
9. Itachi was a hero who slaughtered his clan and killed children...heroically killed children...
10. Kushina was best friends with Sasukes mother right? Why wouldn't she take Naruto in?

11. Suigetusu stated that "the only reason you defeated orochimaru was because both his arms were rendered useless by the reaper death seal" He was using jutsu's against 4 tails naruto
12. Naruto was supposed to change Sasukes mind, but Hashi and Itachi do it

 

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1.Minato and Hashirama are being underplayed to show Naruto and Sasuke.
2.Orochimaru aint done shit since he made his debut on the field.
3. Where is Madara? Does he not care that the K11 are whopping Obito's ass?
4. Obito aint done shit on the offensive, he just seems to not really want to win
5. Nobody questions Naruto is the son of Minato the Fourth Hokage
6. Minato doesnt know Naruto has sage mode, even tho he saw it through Naruto
7.

8. Jiraiya suddenly has sage mode, but never uses it against Orochimaru when Naruto and Tsunades life was on the line. Kishi hadnt thought of it yet :|
9. Itachi was a hero who slaughtered his clan and killed children...heroically killed children...
10. Kushina was best friends with Sasukes mother right? Why wouldn't she take Naruto in?

11. Suigetusu stated that "the only reason you defeated orochimaru was because both his arms were rendered useless by the reaper death seal" He was using jutsu's against 4 tails naruto
12. Naruto was supposed to change Sasukes mind, but Hashi and Itachi do it

1-Do you mean Madara and Hashirama.???
2-Orochimaru is far to weak to compete with Obito or Madara...
3-Agreed...
4-He's shot Juubidama's speedblitz the Hashirama's wood clone and Tobirama...Blew the top half of Hiruzen body away took Minato's arm almost killed Sasuke and Naruto Etc...
5-Agreed...
6-Agreed...
7-Agreed...
8-Most likely did not have it mastered yet...
9- I still don't think Itachi is a hero...
10-Who says they were best friends.???
11-Agreed...
12- Who cares as long as it gets done...
 
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i agree with number 9 lmfao
 

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Your entire list makes sense. Just shows that Kishi is not a genius, but he is smart.
 

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#9... Either itachi kills clan and saves sasuke or they do it and everyone dies. So that's why he had to.
 

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You're name fits nicely to the bold.
Whats in Orochimaru's arsenal that could be usefull at this point.??? Come to think of it Orochimaru only defeated his old comrades and kids...
 

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1.Minato and Hashirama are being underplayed to show Naruto and Sasuke.
2.Orochimaru aint done shit since he made his debut on the field.
3. Where is Madara? Does he not care that the K11 are whopping Obito's ass?
4. Obito aint done shit on the offensive, he just seems to not really want to win
5. Nobody questions Naruto is the son of Minato the Fourth Hokage
6. Minato doesnt know Naruto has sage mode, even tho he saw it through Naruto
7.

8. Jiraiya suddenly has sage mode, but never uses it against Orochimaru when Naruto and Tsunades life was on the line. Kishi hadnt thought of it yet :|
9. Itachi was a hero who slaughtered his clan and killed children...heroically killed children...
10. Kushina was best friends with Sasukes mother right? Why wouldn't she take Naruto in?

11. Suigetusu stated that "the only reason you defeated orochimaru was because both his arms were rendered useless by the reaper death seal" He was using jutsu's against 4 tails naruto
12. Naruto was supposed to change Sasukes mind, but Hashi and Itachi do it


1. Hashirama's keeping Madara busy (I partially agree with the Minato point though).
2. Orochimaru doesn't care about the war.
3. He's fighting Hashirama
4. That tells us Obito is about to be TNJ'd.
5. Agreed.
6. I don't really understand this point.
7. Agreed.
8. The odds were stacked against Orochimaru so Jiraiya didn't think he'd need it.
9. He did it so even more children wouldn't die.
10. Agreed.
11. Agreed.
12. It could have been either of those 3. Naruto was the least likely to.
 

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1.Minato and Hashirama are being underplayed to show Naruto and Sasuke.
2.Orochimaru aint done shit since he made his debut on the field.
3. Where is Madara? Does he not care that the K11 are whopping Obito's ass?
4. Obito aint done shit on the offensive, he just seems to not really want to win
5. Nobody questions Naruto is the son of Minato the Fourth Hokage
6. Minato doesnt know Naruto has sage mode, even tho he saw it through Naruto
7.

8. Jiraiya suddenly has sage mode, but never uses it against Orochimaru when Naruto and Tsunades life was on the line. Kishi hadnt thought of it yet :|
9. Itachi was a hero who slaughtered his clan and killed children...heroically killed children...
10. Kushina was best friends with Sasukes mother right? Why wouldn't she take Naruto in?

11. Suigetusu stated that "the only reason you defeated orochimaru was because both his arms were rendered useless by the reaper death seal" He was using jutsu's against 4 tails naruto
12. Naruto was supposed to change Sasukes mind, but Hashi and Itachi do it


1. Blame Naruto/Obito for that. They talk so much rubbish.
2. He clearly said he has no interest.
3. Who knows man? Who knows.....
4. Just a terrible character overall really.
5. Not important right now is it?
6. Yes he does, he seen him use it and combine their attacks using Senjutsu.
7. Oh shit. Good catch.
8. Probably didn't think the situation called for it.
9. ............... Need to go into more depth for that.
10. Probably was told that her and her son died that day.
11. Ehhhhh......
12. You could say that.
 

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1. Blame Naruto/Obito for that. They talk so much rubbish.
2. He clearly said he has no interest.
3. Who knows man? Who knows.....
4. Just a terrible character overall really.
5. Not important right now is it?
6. Yes he does, he seen him use it and combine their attacks using Senjutsu.
7. Oh shit. Good catch.
8. Probably didn't think the situation called for it.
9. ............... Need to go into more depth for that.
10. Probably was told that her and her son died that day.
11. Ehhhhh......
12. You could say that.
1. Wut.
2. He said he has to help, otherwise hhis experiments are all for nothing
5. It is
6. Nope, first time NAruto goes sage, Minato goes "wow, he knows senjutsu"
8. Okay, Guy who kills Third Hokage and is about to kill Naruto and Tsunade, Jiraiya doesnt use his strongest technique...
9. People call Itachi a hero, but he killed innocent people and children
11. Its true, deal with it
12. I will say that
 

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1.Minato and Hashirama are being underplayed to show Naruto and Sasuke.
2.Orochimaru aint done shit since he made his debut on the field.
3. Where is Madara? Does he not care that the K11 are whopping Obito's ass?
4. Obito aint done shit on the offensive, he just seems to not really want to win
5. Nobody questions Naruto is the son of Minato the Fourth Hokage
6. Minato doesnt know Naruto has sage mode, even tho he saw it through Naruto
7.

8. Jiraiya suddenly has sage mode, but never uses it against Orochimaru when Naruto and Tsunades life was on the line. Kishi hadnt thought of it yet :|
9. Itachi was a hero who slaughtered his clan and killed children...heroically killed children...
10. Kushina was best friends with Sasukes mother right? Why wouldn't she take Naruto in?

11. Suigetusu stated that "the only reason you defeated orochimaru was because both his arms were rendered useless by the reaper death seal" He was using jutsu's against 4 tails naruto
12. Naruto was supposed to change Sasukes mind, but Hashi and Itachi do it


1. The books called Naruto. But yes.
2. Too much going on already, its all over the place. Nobody really doing anything there except guess who? Naruto.
3. I know, he just disappears. What we cant see is he's playing himself in NUNS3 off camera.
4. Plotkai
5. WHy should they?
6. ?
7. All the coats are different in edos.
8. Yep
9. Hes not a hero, hes a villian like all other uchiha. They are the villians in the story, who said he was a hero?
10. Because hes the devil. Why didnt anybody else either? Because they hate and feared him.
11. I know, I never understood how he did jutsus and used his arms sometimes after they were supposedly sealed, never made sense to me. Its not even something that could be forgotten about, he uses them several times and Kishi had to have thought about the fact that he took his arms, it was a pivotal plot point in the beginning.
12. Kind of anticlimactic if its as simple as that huh? Im starting to wonder if theyre even going to fight now...
 

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1. Wut.
2. He said he has to help, otherwise hhis experiments are all for nothing
5. It is
6. Nope, first time NAruto goes sage, Minato goes "wow, he knows senjutsu"
8. Okay, Guy who kills Third Hokage and is about to kill Naruto and Tsunade, Jiraiya doesnt use his strongest technique...
9. People call Itachi a hero, but he killed innocent people and children
11. Its true, deal with it
12. I will say that

1. We would have seen more of them had Naruto/Obito just shut up and got on with the fighting, but the constant talking ruined that.
2. He was helping pull down the tree, he didn't say he was going to fight anybody.
5. How? Honestly, how?
6. You're talking about the Pein thing, when he talked to Naruto during that fight aren't you? Maybe it was just a memory he implanted within Naruto. Maybe it had no effect on his memories when he was brought back. Just spit balling.
8. He probably thought the summon and Tsunade and Naruto was enough to repel him.
9. It's debatable. It comes down to your own morality on that one.
11. Ehhhhhhh......
12. I don't think anyone actually cares though.
 

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2.Orochimaru aint done shit since he made his debut on the field.
3. Where is Madara? Does he not care that the K11 are whopping Obito's ass?
4. Obito aint done shit on the offensive, he just seems to not really want to win
5. Nobody questions Naruto is the son of Minato the Fourth Hokage
6. Minato doesnt know Naruto has sage mode, even tho he saw it through Naruto
8. Jiraiya suddenly has sage mode, but never uses it against Orochimaru when Naruto and Tsunades life was on the line. Kishi hadnt thought of it yet
9. Itachi was a hero who slaughtered his clan and killed children...heroically killed children...
10. Kushina was best friends with Sasukes mother right? Why wouldn't she take Naruto in?
12. Naruto was supposed to change Sasukes mind, but Hashi and Itachi do it

2. Orochimaru is saving himself for a later time
3. he wants Obito to be weakened so he can try and take him over
4. AGREED!!! , he should definitely try and kill the EDO. ,but he needs someone alive to be his Infinite Tsukuyomi victims.
5. AGREED!!! Kishi doesn't care I guess. OR about TenTen watching Neji die. U_U
6. That was Minato's chakra that was with Naruto at that time. The Soul of Minato was in RDS. Chakra couldn't return to him cuz it would have to be sealed with the RDS as well.
8. Jiraiya was weakened by Tsunade's potion before the Sanin Showdown.
9. Kids do dumb things for justice or orders without thinking clearly and carefully. Adults as well. Oro wanted to kill Rain village Trio while they were kids. Edo Itachi admitted he was wrong back then.
10. Uchiha clan has secrets and Fugaku was the head. Clans are secretive. So are shinobi.
12. The Crow with KA was used on Itachi thanks to fighting Naruto and later convinced Sasuke to lead up to this point.
 
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