Plot-no-Jutsu is Bullshit!

KGB Kakuzu

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His short-fuse temper probably led him to make a mistake. Glad you understand.

I was so pissed when Jiraiya died! He's my favorite! :'(

Yeah Jiraiya dying sucked....especially since Orochimaru is back yet again....the arrogant power mad Sannin should've been the first to go :'(

But Kakuzu wasn't even pissed off and that's what annoys me XD...I mean he had just gone over his plan to stay away....oh well. Wish Kishi would've made OT clear he got in a raging mood lol
 

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one more thing expain why DBZ is like the now amine where the main character can die against OP enemies while in naruto,bleach, and etc. mains win an un-winable by logic by the writer pulling some shit out of his ass and its'nt plot
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This is not DBZ. Do not bring non-sequiturs into an argument.
 

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Lol Hinata helping Naruto was because the person who had basically saved her from depression as well as the man she loved was in danger XD

This^^^ is correct sir Simple
 

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one more thing expain why DBZ is like the now amine where the main character can die against OP enemies while in naruto,bleach, and etc. mains win an un-winable by logic by the writer pulling some shit out of his ass its'nt plot

because naruto is the op character.
and sorry, but for the main character to die and bring him back countless times sucks big time than rather not dying.
 

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*Sigh* I knew i had not seen the last of this thread...
 

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Plot No Jutsu is someone winning because if they didn't the manga would not make sense.
 

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Plot No Jutsu is someone winning because if they didn't the manga would not make sense.

Not necessarily. It means there is a possibility you wouldn't think about.
As simple as that.

Because people are simple-minded, mostly in VS threads (from where the PNJ thing started), and think that ninja x could end ninja y with one technique while in reality is totally different. Ninja y could literally have a surprise movement you wouldn't expect on.

It's purely perceptual thing.

well...to each his/her own

Nothing more correct.
 

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Not necessarily. It means there is a possibility you wouldn't think about.
As simple as that.

Because people are simple-minded, mostly in VS threads (from where the PNJ thing started), and think that ninja x could end ninja y with one technique while in reality is totally different. Ninja y could literally have a surprise movement you wouldn't expect on.

It's purely perceptual thing.



Nothing more correct.
Good point.
 

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Who on this forum is a literature major or an author of any kind? I happen to be a writer and have a degree in English Lit so I know a thing or two about plot holes. The only plot holes I see in the manga are the Hyuga clan's Byakugan origin and why it hasn't been explained further, which isn't really a plot hole per say I just want Kishi to hurry the **** up and set things to right so I don't have to hear fan-boys saying crazy shit like Sharingan is superior (the only thing sharingan has on the Byakugan is an adeptness for genjutsu, other than that what do they have that's superior?), or that Madara "awoke" the Rinnegan.
Plot no jutsu is just childish egotism and the people who use that excuse really piss me off! * storms off to write thread about the superiority of Byakugan and the impossibility of MAdara "awakenning the Rinnegan*
 

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Plot no Jutsu in fact exists. I agree it doesn't happen as often as people claim, but there were situations in which some characters survived situations of certain death without proper explanation or pulled a convenient new technique out of nowhere that is exactly what they needed to escape and/or accomplish X.
One of the most infamous examples was the way Sasuke avoided being pulverized by Deidara's final blast. He was already stated to be nearly out of chakra, but he somehow managed to summon the most colossal snake of the world to protect himself with no problems, placed a Genjutsu on it and entered its mouth to protect himself, and he did all of that in the lightspeed because the explosion was already off.
Another recent example was how Onoki wasn't killed when he tried to stop Madara's meteor. He flies into it and decreases its weight to zero avoiding a full-force impact, nothing wrong with that. But then Madara summons a second meteor that lands on the first one in full force while Onoki was still under it and he survives. Let it sink for a while, he was directly beneath it and survived a meteor wedge on his face, he should have been crushed like a bug, but he survives with just a wound on his forehead. Remember up to this point he was always portrayed as a frail old man with a back problem.
I just cited two examples, there's more, but I think it is enough to prove my point. While some people have the annoying habit of pressing the PnJ button for trivial things and usually in situations it doesn't really apply, Kishimoto made actual uses of plot armor before. Is it bad writing? Yes, but just for a brief moment, even geniuses screw up sometimes, write themselves into corners and have to appeal. Kishimoto is not an exception, unless of course you want to view his work as completely flawless, which is just the opposite, but equally annoying, polar extreme of the hater.
 
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true man true,i salute you:ice:
 
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