Plot No Jutsu does exsist. Solid example

[Tobiwan]

Sasuke should be dead. (plot no jutsu)

Before raging on me, this is not a troll thread, I but effort in showing you the flaws with this one.

The biggest asspull was obviously Sasukes escape from Deidaras explosion.... So here we go


Deidara said Sasuke was almost out of chakra... (1) You could argue, he did have chakra, Deidara did not know it, and and just pretended to can't stand anymore. <-*sarcasm*

So... We saw Sasuke doing NOTHING until the explosion was already happening (2)(3)... he had a nano second for pulling all of his crazy jutsus...

Now to the cool part!:


He summoned Manda! kuchiyose no Jutsu takes more chakra, the stronger the summoned creature is (4), and Manda is one of the most powerful summonings yet. The only thing that I guess is more powerful, is a tailed beast.... So Sasuke had almost no chakra, as he couldn't even stand straight and he had only a split second to summon Manda.
He pulled it off somehow... Let's move on...

In the same split second, he was able to brainwash Manda with his sharingan and somehow get out of there... (5)

(which takes chakra too, both activating sharingan itself, and controlling Manda, who is huuuuuge. I can't estimate the lenght and height of Manda, but have some images. I would have loved to see Katsuyu next to a building in Konoha and then compare that to Manda, but well.) (x,y,z)

maybe with reverse kuchiyose to where Manda was from. Maybe he just made Manda go back himself, like all summons do after a fight. But there is nothing to back up those assumptions. Both of them. After whatever he did, he was "summoned" by Suigetsu.(6)


I want to point out again. "Sasuke managed to do all this in the time it took for the explosion to reach him. After it had already started. Just a few feet from him." -quote from anonymous-



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I pictures may be in the wrong order.

edit: My point is not to show that some things happen to support the plot, but that some things were pulled out of nowhere by Kishi and were just really cheap excuses.

 

[SoupAddicttt]

Yes, Plot no Jutsu exists. It is the entire plot/manga, not just the moments you can't stand. Stop bitching and deal with it.

 

[Simple Math]

why did you try to prove it exist when we already know it does?

 

[-Logic-]

why did you try to prove it exist when we already know it does?

Because not everybody believes it does.

Good thread OP. However, your images don't work.

 

[MrSimple]

Yes it does.

Everyone already knows that Plot>Logic already existed and there are plenty of examples.

 

[Scooby Doo]

It is a fictional story made up by someone and Kishi makes the plot so...what's the point?

 

[Ace of the fire fist]

I'm not sure weather it exits or not, and I don't really care. But didn't Sasuke use the Curse Marks' chakra?

 

[Tobiwan]

why did you try to prove it exist when we already know it does?

The point is to show that Sasuke should be dead. Only an a**pull saved him. That's not how a good story works. I can deal with little things, you just can't think of everything. But you have to think about how you make one of the main characters survive a huge explosion. This seems like Kishi did that in 5 minutes.

 

[Tobiwan]

I'm not sure weather it exits or not, and I don't really care. But didn't Sasuke use the Curse Marks' chakra?

Nope, he already used it.

 

[Simple Math]

The point is to show that Sasuke should be dead. Only an a**pull saved him. That's not how a good story works. I can deal with little things, you just can't think of everything. But you have to think about how you make one of the main characters survive a huge explosion. This seems like Kishi did that in 5 minutes.

the reason why Sasuke didn't die was because he's too important for the storyline.. if Sasuke died, there would be no Naruto v Sasuke in the end.. this is where plot comes in.. it saves any characters that need to live with an asspull.

 

[Tobiwan]

the reason why Sasuke didn't die was because he's too important for the storyline.. if Sasuke died, there would be no Naruto v Sasuke in the end.. this is where plot comes in.. it saves any characters that need to live with an asspull.

He probably did that to make it more tense. There could have been more than one possible other solution. But showing Sasuke near death and then pulling of crazy stuff is to much....

 

[-immortal-]

yep it exist

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Examples ino vs Sakura Sakura was. Done for count her inner self was also done then naruto shouts her name giving her strength to recover and gain conciousness

Gaara vs deidara it after deidara used dirty tactics -/- (lmfao) gaara became unconscious it stated in manga if gaara loses conciousness or sleeps the demon will come out thts why in Forrest of death e knocked himself out
So when deidara knocks gaara out no demon -____-
Yet naruto gets to use his demon in like every fight -_-

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Ino vs Sakura I believe was the earliest troll I've seen I. This manga

 

[rollin]

it doesn't

 

[cptenn94]

as you can see trees go flying when deidara explodes, (which shows it doesnt neccesarily disinigrate all things) and manda has burns and such all over his body.....so knowing that we find that 2 things happened. sasuke summoned manda and controlled him, and then jumped in his mouth. Then manda was hit by the blast, and either reverse summoned himself, or was sent flying by the blast.

Go try to do the handseals yourself, and cut the time it takes in a third. So the only questionable time gap is him jumping in mandas mouth(sasuke got more chakra using cm) but we honestly dont know whether deidaras explosion was instant, or more slow moving like a nuke..the difference was deidara was consistently compressing his chakra, so it needed prep time to work.


Simply plot no jutsu is a lame excuse for things not happening the way you want them to. I would love to see kishi go and have a day where he explains in details, what you people call plot no jutsu, and debunk everything...Plot no jutsu, doesnt exist. Unexplained parts of the plot do exist.

 

[narutoblitz]

Re: Sasuke should be dead. (plot no jutsu)

Like that one time the Kyuubi and Naruto's Dad beat Pain for him? Without plot jutsu, Naruto is dead 10 times over.

 

[KevinPJH]

No shit the plot exists.. Without the plot, there is no Manga..

Its like reading a book with no plot, does not ****ing exist.

 

[mimihigurashi]

He obviously made this thread because a few days ago there was a thread stating "Plot no jutsu does not exist" and everyone agreed to it. Now he makes a thread that proves it does exist and everyone says they already knew.. make up your mind people =/

 

[Naruto420]

Ofcourse it exists, but blaming aplot because someone(naruto) will eventually beat another op(madara,juubi?) character is stupid, remember this: it was plot no jutsu that created madara and made him so powerful, and according to plot naruto is SUPPOSED to be the strongest one in the end. plot no jutsu is the whole manga. Thats why it pisses me off that people say naruto will win because of plot no jutsu, the whole thing is a PLOT lol.