[VS] Plot Manipulator VS Logic Negator

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Obito the plot manipulator.
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Madara the Logic negator


Obito's plot manipulation power: He can pretty much change scenarios to have any outcome he sees fit. He can make a battle go one way, and suddenly have a crazy turn around. He was supposed to have died being crushed...he used plot to make Madara find him. He should have been killed by so many characters, but he always had a way to move plot around. And when he got tired, he sacrificed himself to finally die. Then again, he made all the circumstances happen so that those situations would happen.

Madara's logic negating powers: Using Susanoo without even having a sharingan, no explanation needed, And a pretty high leveld susanoo too.
suddenly having chakra absorbtion without any explanation. Using Izanagi while dead. The moment he died, all chakra should have left his body, his eye should have ceased to function. Making a clone that never disappeared to trick ppl to think he was dead. Wouldn't someone be able to tell that the clone was alive? Poking a rinnigan in his eyeball and automatically being able to use it right there on the spot. (kakashi gaiden logic) sticking on a zetsu arm and instantly using it. Using Kamui as Juubi Jin when it was supposedly impossible to do.

for those of you who say things like, "OH, somebody blows fireballs out of their mouth is logical?" in a fictional world, as long as their is an logical explanation as to how it works, for the context of the story, yes it is logical.

Who would win in a battle?
 

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Obito the plot manipulator


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Double Rinnegan Madara can comfortably beat Juubito (which is Obitos strongest form)

JJ Madara > Juubito > RT Madara > Edo/VOTE Madara > Rinnegan Tobi > MS Obito > EMS Madara
 

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Wait, How?

His juubi is more complete, has far superior eyes, and can actually use them in his juubi form unlike Obito,
he also possesses the senjutsu of the six paths, has the infinite tsukuyomi eye, and has also absorbed the shinju which gives him huge life force, so yeah Double Rinneagn Juudara can comfortably beat him
 

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His juubi is more complete, has far superior eyes, and can actually use them in his juubi form unlike Obito,
he also possesses the senjutsu of the six paths, has the infinite tsukuyomi eye, and has also absorbed the shinju which gives him huge life force, so yeah Double Rinneagn Juudara can comfortably beat him

I thought you were talking about sage eyes only, nvm
 

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MS Obito (Spare Sharingan) >= EMS Madara (No Kurama)
MS Obito w/ Rinnegan and Gunbai > EMS Madara (No Kurama)
MS Obito w/ Rinnegan and Gunbai < EMS Madara w/ Kurama

Edo Madara and SM Single Rinnegan Madara. > Any form of Obito bar Juubi Jin.

Juubito > SM Double Rinnegan Madara
Juubito < Juubi Jin Single Rinnegan Madara.
 
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