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That's why it's a plot hole
I can't stress how much more I don't care what names you people want to give to things that happen in the manga that take a bit more than just looking at the pretty pictures to understand what's going on.
 

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obito was not able to use kamui (even though he was kamui spammer) when he was the juubi jin

But madara was able to kamui (first time user) although he was a juubi jin

can anyone explain this shit ????

I guess that's because Madara was able to unlock Rinnegan. From his technique Limbo his clone comes from another dimension, so I guess that's why he was able to Kamui to another dimension. However, it's still a plot hole. We need some kind of explanation from Kishimoto. :hint:
 

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The fuq am I going to prove?

He just simply never used Kamui?

Why would he suddenly become unable to use a technique he has Been using his whole life because he became stronger?

Can you prove he cant use Kamui?

GTFO kid.

You wankers are too strung out on one simple technique, not ever character is like Naruto...

Re-read the chapters when Obito was a Juubi's Jinchuriki, kiddo. You're the one who's failing here, mate.
 

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its not a plot hole....he never tried to warp he just couldnt phase thru objects or make things go thru him like naruto's rasengan

Please tell me the difference? He's going to the other dimension no matter how you put it's all Kumai.
 

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Oh word?

So Obito wouldn't simply be more knowledgable about his techniques than you right?

I mean if he would have tried to go to the Kamui dimension something odd should have happened right ?

At this point, I'm just posting for the post count, you guys fail if you think Obito couldn't teleport to the Kamui dimension...

But umm obito has never had the ten tails in him before so how is he supposed to know he can or can't use his jutsu when it's in him?
 

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But umm obito has never had the ten tails in him before so how is he supposed to know he can or can't use his jutsu when it's in him?

Right...

Your starting to think... Now add this to the fact that the Juubi is a large mass of energy, which Obito was unable to fully control, and you arrive at to the main point which is why he was unable to just simple send select parts of himself to the Kamui dimension... Not to say he can't teleport himself there.

All you have to do read the viz scan... It's not that hard, then read up on how Kamui works because you lack knowledge of this, then read some more because you prolly still don't comprehend... Viola.
 

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Obito couldn't make himself intangible he never tried to go to kamui realm or anything

Finally someone understands about his Mangekyo and the difference between the two eyes Obito's is defensive allowing parts of his body to transpose through dimensions it only works on his body and no one else another entity inside of his body would make it impossible while Kakashi's or rather Obito's left eye is offensive being able to target even ripping off someone's arm but both eyes can use the base Kamui which is what Madara did
 

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Next time use a search bar, before creating a thread on the topic that has already been discussed several times... especially when you go as far as calling it a plot hole.
Here's your explanation :

 

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It's a plot hole he can't send parts of his body to kamui yet he is able to warp there. Madara can't use susanoo even though he likes using it.
 

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Please tell me the difference? He's going to the other dimension no matter how you put it's all Kumai.

there is phasing thru things and there is fully warping and bring things into that space. he cannot warp and phase at the same time because he has to go solid to warp things and phasing isnt him being soild. point is i dont know if he could have warped away with kamui with the juubi but i know he couldnt have phase(meaning block naruto' senjutsu rasengan attack) because he had the jubbi. that is all im saying
 

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It's a plot hole he can't send parts of his body to kamui yet he is able to warp there. Madara can't use susanoo even though he likes using it.

OMG, your logic has plot holes do you even read the manga read it again this time use the official English translation from Viz your confusion comes from the fact you only read the Mangapanda or *********** and I'm sorry you can't understand the nature of Obito's Mangekyo it's really a simple concept
 

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Kamui works in two ways noob; Obito can either teleport his entire self to the other dimension or he simply sends a part of himself to the other dimension, making it seem as if he can phase through objects.

This is why you fail, and can't understand that Obito didn't say he can't use Kamui.
It's the same thing he's going to the other dimension whether its a body part or his hole body when things pass threw him he goes to the other dimension.


Right...

Your starting to think... Now add this to the fact that the Juubi is a large mass of energy, which Obito was unable to fully control, and you arrive at to the main point which is why he was unable to just simple send select parts of himself to the Kamui dimension... Not to say he can't teleport himself there.

All you have to do read the viz scan... It's not that hard, then read up on how Kamui works because you lack knowledge of this, then read some more because you prolly still don't comprehend... Viola.

Um obito was fully in control of the ten tails at that point...an like I said its the same thing..madara even used susano without eyes period he's just god of naruto an kishi cheats for him.
 

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It's the same thing he's going to the other dimension whether its a body part or his hole body when things pass threw him he goes to the other dimension.

Um obito was fully in control of the ten tails at that point...an like I said its the same thing..madara even used susano without eyes period he's just god of naruto an kishi cheats for him.

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I don't even want to argue any more, just re-read the manga dude, please, please if not for me for your faith in the series.
 

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It's the same thing he's going to the other dimension whether its a body part or his hole body when things pass threw him he goes to the other dimension.




Um obito was fully in control of the ten tails at that point...an like I said its the same thing..madara even used susano without eyes period he's just god of naruto an kishi cheats for him.
ok let me try to clear it up for you. i get what you meant that he going to the dimension because part of his body goes there thru phasing but thats not how we are looking at it. we are saying that he didnt show himself tryna warp into the dimension fully with his body as the juubi jin. h e just said that he couldnt phase thru. phasing thru isnt the same thing as going there if you look at it the way we are talking about. to us going there means like how he went there to revive naruto. we arent talking about the way your thinking. it technically is him being there even if its phase. but we are saying that we didnt see the time pace spiral come from him eye while sucking up his whole body prolly cuz he thought the juubi was too large of a mass that is all.
 

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ok let me try to clear it up for you. i get what you meant that he going to the dimension because part of his body goes there thru phasing but thats not how we are looking at it. we are saying that he didnt show himself tryna warp into the dimension fully with his body as the juubi jin. h e just said that he couldnt phase thru. phasing thru isnt the same thing as going there if you look at it the way we are talking about. to us going there means like how he went there to revive naruto. we arent talking about the way your thinking. it technically is him being there even if its phase. but we are saying that we didnt see the time pace spiral come from him eye while sucking up his whole body prolly cuz he thought the juubi was too large of a mass that is all.

So I see........
 

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Its pretty simple madara is awesome he solos all, so no wonder he is able do thing others cant or have failed to. It has happend before n will keep happening like when he knocked all the tail beast at once which obito could do.
 

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OMG, your logic has plot holes do you even read the manga read it again this time use the official English translation from Viz your confusion comes from the fact you only read the Mangapanda or *********** and I'm sorry you can't understand the nature of Obito's Mangekyo it's really a simple concept

No YOUR LOGIC has flaws I explained how obits abilities worked how could I not know them? And you keep saying viz viz viz doesn't matter he only said he can't use kamui and didn't explain why simple as that.
 
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