Plot Hole no justu !!!Plot Hole no justu !!!! No not really

[DeadManWonderLand]

I swear i wish the first guy to ever say plot hole no justu never came up with the idea it was clever and funny but now people use it whenever they fail to understand something or personally do not like something that has transpired.
Not knowing or not understanding something does not automatically make it a plot hole.A plot hole is a gap or inconsistency in a storyline that goes against the flow of logic established by the story's plot, or constitutes a blatant omission of relevant information regarding the plot. These include such things as unlikely behaviour or actions of characters, illogical or impossible events, events happening for no apparent reason, or statements/events that contradict earlier events in the storyline.While many stories have unanswered questions, unlikely events or chance occurrences,>>>>>>>>>>>> a plot hole is one that is essential to the story's outcome.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Either re read the chapter to fully grasp it or ask someone about it or just simply except kishi's work as it is ultimately his and not yours or mine so when we predict or expect something don't get so angry the world is not ending and the manga is not going to stop making sense because you disagree with its direction.I could name a few but then i would feel compelled to list why they were hasty to brush it off as a "plot hole" and if the thread is too long people will not read it all the way through i trust you readers to take in the info and possibly recall the countless threads you might of saw entitled "plot hole" and see if anyone of them actually has legitimately found and pointed out a part in the manga that has illogical or impossible events, events happening for no apparent reason, or statements/events that contradict earlier events in the storyline that is ESSENTIAL to the story line.

 

[Yo pappy]

While the series does have some legitimate plot-holes, I agree with you. Most of the people who make threads claiming they found a plot hole are about as mistaken as a thinking Seagull.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

That was hilarious i needed that i think ima go watch family guy now lol + rep because that once again was friggin hilarious

 

[Gregsta]

I never saw any plot holes so go away idiots

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Since i will be getting off after his post i guess i will post a single thread that pertains to "plot holes" so people have an idea of what kind of people am talking about.Someone claims suigetsu finding the scroll is a plot hole.I in return posted this.

You do know that a plot is essential to a story right or no ?
Suigetsu was experimented on by oro so he knew a few bases himself which can be credited by knowing karin who was stationed at one hideout and also knowing juugo who was also stationed at another hideout.The point being him knowing about oros hideouts are not a stretch and we all know juugo has outburst so the how it happened is not the actual cause for disbelief its more of the findings that have people in disbelief and to that i say why ? The man (oro) had secret bases it is too far of a stretch to say he had secret compartments to his secret hideouts ? Not everything in a story can be streamlined from the same source you come at it from different angles and they way it happened it true to the characters and setting.This does not constitute as a "plot hole"


Suigetsu finding the scroll did not detriment or take the plot of the show onto a beaten path with his discovery and if did explain why
and how his discovery or how he found it is obstructing the story

 

[thegame]

Well plot holes are by definition something needed in the plot, so we have many plot holes, since many things haven't been explained to us yet. So to be honest, most of times people use "plot holes" as excuse it might be legit, they just probably don't know what it really means.
The other thing is the so called "plot no jutsu", which is where some things in the plot doesn't get explained or changes drastically.

For instance the 1st hokage actually appeared as fodder before the 3rd hokage, but now according to Madara at least, the 1st hokage was obviously some kind of God, or was Madara just the same type of fodder?

Now this you don't have to flame me for stating, since I actually have another opinion of the whole thing. It was just an example that most people would refer to as plot no jutsu, since it changed a lot in the plot. Meaning Kishi took a character and changed him a lot all of a sudden with no training or explanation to it.

Another example is 3rd raikage who battled 10,000 men for 3 days (or was it more, doesn't matter), but was defeated in an instance by a Naruto clone, and thus appeared as fodder compared to what the rumors said.. Whereas the 2nd mizukage actually seemed to be the strongest of the reborn kages.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Well plot holes are by definition something needed in the plot, so we have many plot holes, since many things haven't been explained to us yet. So to be honest, most of times people use "plot holes" as excuse it might be legit, they just probably don't know what it really means.
The other thing is the so called "plot no jutsu", which is where some things in the plot doesn't get explained or changes drastically.

For instance the 1st hokage actually appeared as fodder before the 3rd hokage, but now according to Madara at least, the 1st hokage was obviously some kind of God, or was Madara just the same type of fodder?

Now this you don't have to flame me for stating, since I actually have another opinion of the whole thing. It was just an example that most people would refer to as plot no jutsu, since it changed a lot in the plot. Meaning Kishi took a character and changed him a lot all of a sudden with no training or explanation to it.

Another example is 3rd raikage who battled 10,000 men for 3 days (or was it more, doesn't matter), but was defeated in an instance by a Naruto clone, and thus appeared as fodder compared to what the rumors said.. Whereas the 2nd mizukage actually seemed to be the strongest of the reborn kages.

No plot holes are not needed in a plot they are the opposite it there is a plot hole someone has not accurately conceived the story or paned the idea all the way through it is basically means unfinished buisness.If something is not explained right away but eventually is its a MYSTERY not a plot hole you seem to be getting the terms confused


Naruto did not take down the third raikage in an instant because of some magic power he attacked him it failed and by piecing info together he had heard earlier about him and came up with a strategy he used his own attack against him that is not a plot hole that does not mess up the story in anyway.

The second mizukage was fighting temari and namless shinobi most of the time
You cannot really compare the third fighting 10,000 shinobi and then having his own attack used on him by naruto shifting his arm to his chest to mizukage fighting random fodder ninja whose numbers were nowhere near 10,000 not to discredit him but naruto using strategy to win a fight
does not correlate to fodder ninja fighting mizukage

 

[thegame]

So just about this first part:

No plot holes are not needed in a plot they are the opposite it there is a plot hole someone has not accurately conceived the story or paned the idea all the way through it is basically means unfinished buisness.If something is not explained right away but eventually is its a MYSTERY not a plot hole you seem to be getting the terms confused

Now when you talk about plot holes, you are right in your definition, but that would be if the story had ended. Basically depending on how you interpret plot holes if it's any kind of series that is unfinished, which Naruto would categorize in, unless it is something finished that is impossible to explain further in the story, your definition of a plot hole will be everywhere as well, since the story hasn't ended, thus it is full of unfinished business .

We can call it mysteries, but the definition will still make the mystery a plot till it's "filled", anyway it doesn't matter what we call it, I just wanted to say that as long as it's an ongoing series like Naruto everything can still be explained so it is very hard to find any plot holes. You can find direct mistakes in the manga, but that wont necessarily interfere with the plot. Besides my hole point was that most of the people calling "plot hole" everywhere doesn't really understand that it can still be explained, which you would then mean is not a plot hole at all, and I can live with that as well. I don't call it plot holes either..

Regarding the examples I gave I never said it was my opinion, so there is no need to discuss it further, it was just examples of what I see people referring to as plot no jutsu or whatever they wish to call it..

I did also say it was examples.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

It does matter what you call it words have definitions for a reason.Your really not going to sit here and say plot holes and mysteries are the same thing are you ?.