Please, Naruto didn't get Eye-Powerups >_<

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

His power up is of the body not the eyes.

 

[Yahcob13]

He has the bijuu sage mode eyes without the cloak. Its technically a doujutsu. But we know its his mastery of chakra control and senjutsu allows him to focus it through his eyes. It could be passive which would really make it a doujutsu.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

It might be an eye power. Stop treating it as if it's illogical. There's a significant difference in appearance from biju sage mode and this new power.

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Notice it? Naruto does not have the characteristic dark pigments around his eyes that a sage usually does. It's, at the very least, not remotely similar to any sage mode we've seen. The only difference is in the eyes. It could be an eye power. It's by no means, ruled out.

 

[Itachi Edo]

Wow they are saying that the bijuu sage is a new eye?! dont they remember it from the pain arc?! 0_o

Yet we wonder why Kishi uses flashbacks so much, because 90% of his readers are idiots who only skim through for the fight scenes.

 

[Everztar]

Yet we wonder why Kishi uses flashbacks so much, because 90% of his readers are idiots who only skim through for the fight scenes.

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[Arian]

and spell! :*

buuurn xDDD touché of course i meant LEARN

 

[Arian]

Yet we wonder why Kishi uses flashbacks so much, because 90% of his readers are idiots who only skim through for the fight scenes.

so much truth has been told in this comment

 

[Disquiet]

It might be an eye power. Stop treating it as if it's illogical. There's a significant difference in appearance from biju sage mode and this new power.

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Notice it? Naruto does not have the characteristic dark pigments around his eyes that a sage usually does. It's, at the very least, not remotely similar to any sage mode we've seen. The only difference is in the eyes. It could be an eye power. It's by no means, ruled out.

I'm actually leaning toward it being some kind of advanced SM. I know you're probably thinking, "You can't go beyond perfect", but hear me out.

We learned in the manga that less toad features=better control of SM. The only fact that we can go on right now is that his eyes are the same as when he combined SM and Kurama's power, minus the markings. There's another interesting detail, he was able to deflect those black orbs. We learned that only senjutsu attacks (and taijutsu) can affect Madara (which should be play a huge part in beating him). It would make sense if Naruto "fully mastered" SM and was able to negate all affects of those black orbs.

Facts:

1) States that only senjutsu and taijutsu can harm Madara

2) Naruto shows up with the same as eyes as when using Sage Mode and Kurama's powers minus the markings

3) Kicks the black orb away


^Number 3 also implies he's much faster that usual (capable of intercepting the black orb), and he doesn't even have a Kurama cloak. Can this be attributed to some advanced SM?

I think it's highly likely that his SM went to a whole new level, after receiving a power-up from none other than Hagormo himself. Seems more likely than it being some new doujutsu.

 

[Everztar]

I'm actually leaning toward it being some kind of advanced SM. I know you're probably thinking, "You can't go beyond perfect", but hear me out.

We learned in the manga that less toad features=better control of SM. The only fact that we can go on right now is that his eyes are the same as when he combined SM and Kurama's power, minus the markings. There's another interesting detail, he was able to deflect those black orbs. We learned that only senjutsu attacks (and taijutsu) can affect Madara (which should be play a huge part in beating him). It would make sense if Naruto "fully mastered" SM and was able to negate all affects of those black orbs.

Facts:

1) States that only senjutsu and taijutsu can harm Madara

2) Naruto shows up with the same as eyes as when using Sage Mode and Kurama's powers minus the markings

3) Kicks the black orb away


^Number 3 also implies he's much faster that usual (capable of intercepting the black orb), and he doesn't even have a Kurama cloak. Can this be attributed to some advanced SM?

I think it's highly likely that his SM went to a whole new level, after receiving a power-up from none other than Hagormo himself. Seems more likely than it being some new doujutsu.

i think that naruto is combining Sage Mode with Ninshuu(non hostile)... instead of Sage Mode and Ninjutsu... for perfection of Sage Mode

Hagoromo did say that Ninjutsu is not the same as Ninshuu... Ninjutsu was created to make war...

 

[bashkim]

probably perfection of sage mode

Yeah but Naruto perfected Sage Mode.
This is the problem.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

I'm actually leaning toward it being some kind of advanced SM. I know you're probably thinking, "You can't go beyond perfect", but hear me out.

We learned in the manga that less toad features=better control of SM. The only fact that we can go on right now is that his eyes are the same as when he combined SM and Kurama's power, minus the markings. There's another interesting detail, he was able to deflect those black orbs. We learned that only senjutsu attacks (and taijutsu) can affect Madara (which should be play a huge part in beating him). It would make sense if Naruto "fully mastered" SM and was able to negate all affects of those black orbs.

Facts:

1) States that only senjutsu and taijutsu can harm Madara

2) Naruto shows up with the same as eyes as when using Sage Mode and Kurama's powers minus the markings

3) Kicks the black orb away


^Number 3 also implies he's much faster that usual (capable of intercepting the black orb), and he doesn't even have a Kurama cloak. Can this be attributed to some advanced SM?

I think it's highly likely that his SM went to a whole new level, after receiving a power-up from none other than Hagormo himself. Seems more likely than it being some new doujutsu.

That's what I'm leaning toward to be honest. I just want to make it clear that eye powers aren't 100% ruled out. You see, it's 99.9999999% ruled out. There's still a 0.0000001% chance.


Your view is far from unfounded in fact, "perfect sage mode" is a fanfiction term. There's no such thing. It's "true sage mode." Minato is a "true sage" yet is not considered to be a skilled user of senjutsu.


I don't think there's a sage mode naturally achieved that's stronger than true sage mode, but I think due to the nature of the power he received, it's higher level. Now, some of the power differences may be due to the fact that it's 9 tails chakra and SM, but there is the possibility that it's just using the biju for a better sage mode.

 

[Everztar]

Yeah but Naruto perfected Sage Mode.
This is the problem.

he perfected the combination between Sennin Mode & Ninjutsu... but i think this is what happens when you combine Sennin Mode & Ninshuu

 

[bashkim]

I do not know, but I hope honestly this is not his final power.

 

[Disquiet]

i think that naruto is combining Sage Mode with Ninshuu(non hostile)... instead of Sage Mode and Ninjutsu... for perfection of Sage Mode

Hagoromo did say that Ninjutsu is not the same as Ninshuu... Ninjutsu was created to make war...

As I told you before, this is a huge possibility. Hagoromo's negative attitude toward ninjutsu suggest that he has nothing to do with it, ergo not in possession of it. Logically speaking, it's impossible to gift someone something you don't even have. It would make sense if Naruto's and Sasuke's power-ups are from a "ninshuu" source.

The only problem here is that we have a very abstract understanding of Ninshuu. We have no idea how it's created or performed, it could be purely idealistic (Ninshuu used for peace, as opposed to Ninjutsu which is used for war).

It's going to be interesting to see what becomes of Sasuke, Naruto and Sasuke both have a mark on their hand. Naruto's eyes seems to be slightly different, and as Naruto x Man said, it could be Naruto is using the bijuu for a better SM. However, Sasuke doesn't have any bijuu, so one can only wonder what kind of new "ninjustu" he would be using. Naruto healed Gai (and the bijuu does have healing properties), but I wonder if the mark on his hand has something to do with it. If it does, it brings us back to Sasuke who is bijuu-less and is in possession of a mark. All in all, you make a good point.

That's what I'm leaning toward to be honest. I just want to make it clear that eye powers aren't 100% ruled out. You see, it's 99.9999999% ruled out. There's still a 0.0000001% chance.


Your view is far from unfounded in fact, "perfect sage mode" is a fanfiction term. There's no such thing. It's "true sage mode." Minato is a "true sage" yet is not considered to be a skilled user of senjutsu.


I don't think there's a sage mode naturally achieved that's stronger than true sage mode, but I think due to the nature of the power he received, it's higher level. Now, some of the power differences may be due to the fact that it's 9 tails chakra and SM, but there is the possibility that it's just using the biju for a better sage mode.

I see, that clears the misunderstanding up.

I thought about that, that it was just fan made. I didn't really feel like looking for scans (though ministrations are still possible), so just went with what I usually see people saying.