"Pitiful Excuses in Front of Graves"

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This is not me making a Tobi=Obito theory, this is me trying to figure out why Tobi would bring up Kakashi making excuses at a grave. So if you comment saying something like 'EHMEHGERD Obito theory, gtfo noob.' or 'NO Tobi is - - - -' I will report you to a moderator because i've clearly made this a rule in this thread ^

I think this what sort of overlooked, but IF Tobi was Obito, the reason why he would bring up Kakashi making excuses in front of graves, is because his angry at him for letting Rin die, I don't see any other possiblity on why he would even bring this up, or how he even knew it. Unless he was watching Kakashi the entire time?

Why do you think he brought that up? I guess he was relating to what he was saying, "this world is just cruelly moving foward" But it seems too accurate to speculate on it like that.

But why does he know so much about Kakashi? Why Kakashi? Honestly, every time he speaks to Kakashi he always seems to relate to Rin and Obito, talking about his eye and his excuses. It all just seems too weird to me.

I've already been proven he isn't Obito, but it's all revolving around him, and Kishi is doing a hell of a good job hiding who it is, i'm really pumped to see what Tobi's identity is.
 
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I'm not sure if anyone actually think about what will happen after they see his face. If it's not Obito as i also think like many what will happen? If it's a stranger how would that help them even if they see his face -_______-, now that's something which keeps Obito's theory actually.
I guess the only way is if he going to die and explain his story, the other sugestition is Madara arriving infront of them and Kishi could save his story a little longer or something like that
 

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Before you comment, read this:

This is not me making a Tobi=Obito theory, this is me trying to figure out why Tobi would bring up Kakashi making excuses at a grave. So if you comment saying something like 'EHMEHGERD Obito theory, gtfo noob.' or 'NO Tobi is - - - -' I will report you to a moderator because i've clearly made this a rule in this thread ^

I think this what sort of overlooked, but IF Tobi was Obito, the reason why he would bring up Kakashi making excuses in front of graves, is because his angry at him for letting Rin die, I don't see any other possiblity on why he would even bring this up, or how he even knew it. Unless he was watching Kakashi the entire time?

Why do you think he brought that up? I guess he was relating to what he was saying, "this world is just cruelly moving foward" But it seems too accurate to speculate on it like that.

But why does he know so much about Kakashi? Why Kakashi? Honestly, every time he speaks to Kakashi he always seems to relate to Rin and Obito, talking about his eye and his excuses. It all just seems too weird to me.

I've already been proven he isn't Obito, but it's all revolving around him, and Kishi is doing a hell of a good job hiding who it is, i'm really pumped to see what Tobi's identity is.
Nice theory man +rep

I've already been proven he isn't Obito

You haven't proven anything. We are all unsure as about his identity
 

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1 if you say Tobi could be obito don't get mad when someone says he could not be. 2 its all mind games. He knows personal things about everyone. He uses the pressure for naruto to find peace and also mentions gai fixation on youth against Gai. He knows everything about everyone just about and he uses what's most important to these people to try and manipulate them and get into their heads. He does the same thing with sasuke by mentioning itachi. He didn't have to say any of that. But it was something to get into sasukes head to help him carry out his plan by making him upset at the people of konoha.

Also Tobi doesn't have to stalk anyone or are you forgetting he has zetsu as a tool the best spy ninja someone can have because he's apart of the earth And can record the things he sees . Which means he can appear anywhere and everywhere and record everything. So information about others is not a problem for Tobi to have...
 
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Here's my think... I've been saying this around the base.
The whole how does Tobi know all these things is because of Zetsu. What does Zetsu usually do? Gather information. So that's how Tobi found out and knows stuff about people, including Kakashi. You saw how Tobi takes it personally to everyone and invades their minds with uncertainties and insecurity. He just does it because he has intel on the from no other that the above mentioned.
The big question here is WHO Zetsu is and WHO made him and for what? Because, as we know, Zetsu has a very good close relationship with Tobi.
Of course, it's a big curiosity who Tobi is as well, but in my opinion, this is the answer on how he knows stuff.
 

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Without explaining all my random thoughts.

I simply believe that Zetsu plays a HUGE role here.
Meaning, the reason Tobi is able to comment so much on Guy, Naruto, especially Kakashi is because of Zetsu.

Zetsu can change into exact copies of people down to chakra readings just from a touch.
Zetsu can record battles and share them with Tobi.
Zetsu eats the corpses of falled akatasuki (and probly others) - I believe Zetsu can extract information from the dead bodies. (we've seen this done from other chars)

I believe Zetsu has a lot more powers we haven't seen and that the Zetsu power reveal will clear up a lot of other questions as well.

Just my take that Zetsu is the key without my walls of text lol.


EDIT: Of course when I post this the above post comes up too :) Well @least our Zetsu info needed thoughts are the same :p
 
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Whats going to be funny is if Tobi ends up being Obito after all than we are going to have all these threads saying, "i told you so".

Anyways the discussion between Tobi/Kakashi and their eye brings up a lor of speculation, but so enough we will know his identity and how he knows about everything.
 

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Without explaining all my random thoughts.

I simply believe that Zetsu plays a HUGE role here.
Meaning, the reason Tobi is able to comment so much on Guy, Naruto, especially Kakashi is because of Zetsu.

Zetsu can change into exact copies of people down to chakra readings just from a touch.
Zetsu can record battles and share them with Tobi.
Zetsu eats the corpses of falled akatasuki (and probly others) - I believe Zetsu can extract information from the dead bodies. (we've seen this done from other chars)

I believe Zetsu has a lot more powers we haven't seen and that the Zetsu power reveal will clear up a lot of other questions as well.

Just my take that Zetsu is the key without my walls of text lol.


EDIT: Of course when I post this the above post comes up too :) Well @least our Zetsu info needed thoughts are the same :p
Haha, great minds think alike :p
 

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none of you get it! Tobi is obviously evil konahamaru from the future! it all makes sense! regular Konhahamaru is bad at looking like a rock, but evil konahama would be really good at it. he was obviously the rock that fell on tobi. no doubt about. It all makes sense.
 

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random thing here, what ever happened to black zetsu. i know white zet original got killed by sasuke,

but the black last time we seen him was when eh was searchn for the fuedal lords

did i miss an update on him? he seems to be the stronger of the two so i wonder when hes guna pop up and do somthn crazzy
 

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So what exatly gives you the idea hes referring directly towards kakashi? Just because it shows him reminiscing the past doesnt rule out Tobi aimed that towards him. For all we know Tobi could have been this hero that was let down from someone.
 
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