[Discussion] Pirate king

[peace ffor all]

so as we all know that the pirate king had conquered/explored all of grandline and was the strongest of all of that time..obviously he was stronger than whitebeard ,garp,shiki,sengoku etc..
now the question is Roger in his prime when became pk vs now fleet admiral akainu..who will win?
i bet roger will win it without doubt but by how much margin?mid dif?high diff?low diff?
for me it will be mid to low if one on one..
so how much luffy have to powerup to go to that level?and how else can he become that strong..i dont think there will be another timeskip so..random powerups?
by what i can see of the situation luffy mostly high difs doffy but cannot go against an admiral or an yonkou..so feel free to discuss how else do you think luffy will become strong?

 

[Fireplay]

Mid-diff. Imo Shanks can beat Akainu High-diff and Roger can beat Shanks high-diff so i'll just have to go with mid.

 

[Donj]

He will have to acquire new gear

 

[Olorin]

Garp was the Marine equivalent of Roger not Sengoku

imo prime Gol D Roger, Gol D Ace, Monkey D Garp, Monkey D Dragon and Monkey D Luffy would all be about equal

 

[Hexuze]

Roger can probably mid-diff. the current fleet admiral. I really want to see how strong Kong is.

 

[Xēnovia.]

I always wondered how beast Monkey D Dragon is...​

 

[Zorø]

The pirate King would only need to use Conquerers Haki.
OT: In all seriousness I think he Mid Diffs him at least.

 

[nicoAlicia]

new gear would be nice

 

[Hexuze]

I always wondered how beast Monkey D Dragon is...​

We already seen what he can potentially do. (i.e kick Akainu's ass, destroy a couple of mountains, throw that huge cannon-ball at the SH's, etc.) I want to see how strong Kong is and what's his fighting style is like.

 

[Kayhos]

PRIME Pirate King vs current Sakazuki?
I would honestly predict Low Diff. This guy is supposedly a former King amongst all pirates. This includes people like Shanks, and Kaido.​

 

[Hexuze]

PRIME Pirate King vs current Sakazuki?
I would honestly predict Low Diff. This guy is supposedly a former King amongst all pirates. This includes people like Shanks, and Kaido.​

No one in OP will ever be able to low diff. an admiral. It depends what you consider low diff. is, to me low diff. is like the Doffy and Sanji encounter/fight. I highly doubt that Roger can do that.

 

[Hori]

Gol D. Roger never reached his prime... he was pirate king while his health was getting worse because of an unknown disease

 

[Kayhos]

No one in OP will ever be able to low diff. an admiral. It depends what you consider low diff. is, to me low diff. is like the Doffy and Sanji encounter/fight. I highly doubt that Roger can do that.

I'd completely agree if it was anyone BUT the Pirate King. Only two people could fight this man - TWO PEOPLE.

I'll take a quote from the wikia:

Spoiler

Prior to his death, Roger was called the "Pirate King" because his fighting power was nearly unstoppable. Only two people have ever matched Roger in battle: Vice Admiral Monkey D. Garp, who possesses immense strength even in old age and cornered him multiple times before his surrender, and his rival Edward "Whitebeard" Newgate, who held the power of the Gura Gura no Mi and was called the "Strongest Man in the World" after Roger's death.

Examples of his strength include fighting on equal ground with Shiki, who commanded the largest pirate fleet of the time and single-handedly defeating the armies of several countries. He was possibly the strongest man in the world (together with his rival Whitebeard). Another testament to his strength is the fact that his first mate, Silvers Rayleigh, was able to battle on par with Admiral Kizaru, even in his old age.

Gol D. Roger never reached his prime... he was pirate king while his health was getting worse because of an unknown disease

I'm pretty sure he meant him at the strongest point of power he had ever reached. Not what he could have become if it wasn't for his death.

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[Pirate King]

Roger mid-high diff same as wb

 

[crono0929]

We already seen what he can potentially do. (i.e kick Akainu's ass, destroy a couple of mountains, throw that huge cannon-ball at the SH's, etc.) I want to see how strong Kong is and what's his fighting style is like.

you are talking about Garp, He was asking about dragon.

Garp did look badass when he was walking towards akainu tho....FREAKING SENGOKU!!!!

 

[Hexuze]

you are talking about Garp, He was asking about dragon.

Garp did look badass when he was walking towards akainu tho....FREAKING SENGOKU!!!!

oh wow, how did I possibly misread that!

 

[ultraChalk]

so as we all know that the pirate king had conquered/explored all of grandline and was the strongest of all of that time..obviously he was stronger than whitebeard ,garp,shiki,sengoku etc..
now the question is Roger in his prime when became pk vs now fleet admiral akainu..who will win?
i bet roger will win it without doubt but by how much margin?mid dif?high diff?low diff?
for me it will be mid to low if one on one..
so how much luffy have to powerup to go to that level?and how else can he become that strong..i dont think there will be another timeskip so..random powerups?
by what i can see of the situation luffy mostly high difs doffy but cannot go against an admiral or an yonkou..so feel free to discuss how else do you think luffy will become strong?

I don't think Akainu can stand up to Roger without buckling his knees. More than likely low diff, but low-mid diff at the most.

And honestly I think Luffy atm can beat Akainu. All of the abilities we've seen from him are dependent on his DF, and if Luffy can get close to him then it's od. I think he will become stronger than he is by fighting more enemies and seeing an ability that he can incorporate into his own moveset, similar to how he created his own 'Soru' like techs.

 

[Trolling King]

Roger Late in life. No diff.

Think about this the man must have still been strong enough to keep the world government away from his crew. On his death bed.

No diff.

 

[sravan]

roger low diff

 

[kmrasengan]

lol, are people actually saying that Roger wins no and low diff against Akainu? Ok then.