Pinnacle of Doujutsu - Superiority and Inferiority

[DiamondxDust]

Not Genjutsu. Meanwhile Sasuke can cast all his MS jutsu with RG active. The techs he retained are almost inconsequential anyway so it doesn't really matter. :lol

Madara can switch his eyes within an instant to use ms techs, it's not a disadvantage. He used Genjutsu to paralyze the 4th raikage after a susano'o clone grabbed him, remember?

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[KidGamer65]

Madara can switch his eyes within an instant to use ms techs, it's not a disadvantage. He used Genjutsu to paralyze the 4th raikage after a susano'o clone grabbed him, remember?

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That's him switching eyes, not using Rinnegan. So it's irrelevant in a Rinnegan vs. Rinnegan comparison.

 

[DiamondxDust]

That's him switching eyes, not using Rinnegan. So it's irrelevant in a Rinnegan vs. Rinnegan comparison.

I understand what you're saying, but it doesn't make sense to say Sasuke's Rinnegan is stronger because it can use sharingan techniques, When a Normal Rinnegan can just switch to the sharingan instantaneously for the exact same effect. It's not an advantage.

 

[KidGamer65]

I understand what you're saying, but it doesn't make sense to say Sasuke's Rinnegan is stronger because it can use sharingan techniques, When a Normal Rinnegan can just switch to the sharingan instantaneously for the exact same effect. It's not an advantage.

I never once said it was stronger. I said one could argue that it was better than Madara's Rinnegan. What you are saying doesn't make sense. Why are you including Sharingan in a conversation where we are comparing two Rinnegan? Whether or not Madara can switch to Sharingan is irrelevant as we are talking about Rinnegan. If you really understood what I was saying you wouldn't be bringing anything but Madara's Rinnegan up.

 

[DiamondxDust]

I never once said it was stronger. I said one could argue that it was better than Madara's Rinnegan. What you are saying doesn't make sense. Why are you including Sharingan in a conversation where we are comparing two Rinnegan? Whether or not Madara can switch to Sharingan is irrelevant as we are talking about Rinnegan. If you really understood what I was saying you wouldn't be bringing anything but Madara's Rinnegan up.

Let me clarify my stance. If we are comparing purely their Rinnegan abilities, and Sasuke's Amaterasu and other MS techs are to be considered Rinnegan abilities since his Rinnegan can use them, then yes objectively Sasuke's Rinnegan is superior. We both Agree on that. Even though the thread is about comparing Rinnegan and not sharingan, I don't think they can be properly compared without acknowledging that Madara being able to instantly switch to his sharingan negates the supposed advantage Sasuke's Rinnegan has in being able to use MS techs. You can say it's off topic, but in my opinion it is extremely relevant.

 

[Warlocks]

equal

 

[Warlocks]

Sasuke's Tomoe Rinnegan can be considered to be equal to Kaguya's to some degree

Rinne-Sharingan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Tomoe Rinnegan

 

[KidGamer65]

Let me clarify my stance. If we are comparing purely their Rinnegan abilities, and Sasuke's Amaterasu and other MS techs are to be considered Rinnegan abilities since his Rinnegan can use them, then yes objectively Sasuke's Rinnegan is superior. We both Agree on that. Even though the thread is about comparing Rinnegan and not sharingan, I don't think they can be properly compared without acknowledging that Madara being able to instantly switch to his sharingan negates the supposed advantage Sasuke's Rinnegan has in being able to use MS techs. You can say it's off topic, but in my opinion it is extremely relevant.

I get your stance, and that's a Madara vs. Sasuke comparison. Not a Rinnegan vs. Rinnegan comparison, which is what the thread is talking about. Overall it matters. In this specific debate it doesn't. If it's not Rinnegan it doesn't matter here as that is what we are talking about.

 

[SenseiSama]

Madara retained all sharingan abilities like the susanoo even after he achieved the rinnegan as well, so I'm not sure what you mean.

Hagoromo's dojutsu is not Indra's KKG, the moment Madara possessed double wielding Rinnegan all Sharingan chakra that was remaining disappeared. Edo version was able to use both powers because his Rinnegan was a fake.

 

[DiamondxDust]

I get your stance, and that's a Madara vs. Sasuke comparison. Not a Rinnegan vs. Rinnegan comparison, which is what the thread is talking about. Overall it matters. In this specific debate it doesn't. If it's not Rinnegan it doesn't matter here as that is what we are talking about.

Fair enough

 

[Greatness23]

Sasukes is Better and stronger. He can still use mangekyo abilities, something madara couldn't do while having his rinnegan active. Their eyes aren't equal, but lke they say, a pebble can be as dangerous as a shuriken if wielded by a master.

 

[DiamondxDust]

Hagoromo's dojutsu is not Indra's KKG, the moment Madara possessed double wielding Rinnegan all Sharingan chakra that was remaining disappeared. Edo version was able to use both powers because his Rinnegan was a fake.

What evidence is there that Madara could only use both dojutsu abilities because he was edo version, or that all of his sharingan abilities disappeared when he unlocked the Rinnegan? That's just speculation.

 

[Edogawa]

These theorists wannabes are getting annoying as of late. Sasuke's Rinnegan is just better because he maintains Sharingan's power with his Rinnegan simultaneously, without having to switch like ET Madara. But it's not stronger. That's that.

 

[DiamondxDust]

These theorists wannabes are getting annoying as of late. Sasuke's Rinnegan is just better because he maintains Sharingan's power with his Rinnegan simultaneously, without having to switch like ET Madara. But it's not stronger. That's that.

The point of a thread is to debate, not to find one true answer and bash everyone who doesn't agree with it.