PHIL JACKSON: MJ>Kobe

Who is the better player?

  • Michael Jordan

    Votes: 7 77.8%
  • Kobe Bryant

    Votes: 2 22.2%

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I just read about this buzz about the Zen Master's new book entitled “Eleven Rings: The Soul of Success,” addresses the MJ-Kobe topic head on. I thought I'd share it here.
Check out the post of renowned NBA analyst Sekou Smith:


In the book, Jackson finally details what separates Jordan from Bryant, comparing the two superstars with a perspective no one else can match. He won all 11 of his rings (six with Jordan and five with Kobe) coaching one of them. My main man Mike Bresnahan of The Times serves up the good stuff:
“Michael was more charismatic and gregarious than Kobe. He loved hanging out with his teammates and security guards, playing cards, smoking cigars, and joking around,” Jackson said in the book, which was obtained in advance by The Times.

“Kobe is different. He was reserved as a teenager, in part because he was younger than the other players and hadn’t developed strong social skills in college. When Kobe first joined the Lakers, he avoided fraternizing with his teammates. But his inclination to keep to himself shifted as he grew older. Increasingly, Kobe put more energy into getting to know the other players, especially when the team was on the road.”


While Jackson coached, he often jabbed at Bryant’s seemingly annual appearance on the NBA’s All-Defensive team. Now we know why.

“No question, Michael was a tougher, more intimidating defender. He could break through virtually any screen and shut down almost any player with his intense, laser-focused style of defense,” said Jackson, who coached Jordan to six championships and Bryant to five.

“Kobe has learned a lot from studying Michael’s tricks, and we often used him as our secret weapon on defense when we needed to turn the direction of a game. In general, Kobe tends to rely more heavily on his flexibility and craftiness, but he takes a lot of gambles on defense and sometimes pays the price.”
Jackson made many of these same points during a Thursday night appearance on the “Tonight Show with Jay Leno.” He also talked about his near return to the Lakers after Mike Brown was fired, the ill-fit that he believes Mike D’Antonio to be as Lakers coach and his desire to return to the league as a front office executive and not a coach.
But the most interesting topic by far is his perspective on the differences between MJ and Kobe:
“Michael was more likely to break through his attackers with power and strength, while Kobe often tries to finesse his way through mass pileups,” Jackson wrote. “Michael was stronger, with bigger shoulders and a sturdier frame. He also had large hands that allowed him to control the ball better and make subtle fakes.
“Jordan was also more naturally inclined to let the game come to him and not overplay his hand, whereas Kobe tends to force the action, especially when the game isn’t going his way. When his shot is off, Kobe will pound away relentlessly until his luck turns. Michael, on the other hand, would shift his attention to defense or passing or setting screens to help the team win the game.”


Jackson’s most scathing observation of the two men involves the leadership qualities they possessed, and in Kobe’s case did not possess, and what kind of impact that had on their respective teams (and granted, Kobe was a youngster on those Lakers teams with Shaquille O’Neal):
“One of the biggest differences between the two stars from my perspective was Michael’s superior skills as a leader,” Jackson writes. “Though at times he could be hard on his teammates, Michael was masterful at controlling the emotional climate of the team with the power of his presence. Kobe had a long way to go before he could make that claim. He talked a good game, but he’d yet to experience the cold truth of leadership in his bones, as Michael had in his bones.”
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Thoughts?
 
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Kobe was hurt by it, we all know. He was using his twitter to comfort himself of the truth.
 

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Michael Jordan>everyone else. especially Lebron James. Hate him
 

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Are there people that think Kobe is better than Jordan? Jordan will probably always own the game.
 

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Kobe isn't even in the top 5 players of all time. MJ, Lebron, Bill Russell, Oscar Robertson, and Kareem
 

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Are there people that think Kobe is better than Jordan? Jordan will probably always own the game.

Yes Jordan set that bar so high, almost impossible to reach but Kobe is near that finish line to cross that bar but he is slowing down(injury/age). At this rate, he may pass Jordan on the all time scoring list but Jordan will remain the greatest player(at least in imo)
Lebron on the other hand in running at 6th gear/full speed towards that bar like a hungry wolf, will he cross it? only time will tell.
 
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Updated*
added pics to better understand why people keep comparing them.
 

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Kobe has a good point here but then again both players are extremely talented and VERY competitive. To tell them that you are second to this person is not what they want to hear, that's how competitive people are really. Im sure Phil Jackson knows them better then anyone of us of here, hes a hall of famer coach and has coached both of them. It probably gets annoying being compared back to back with other great players but that's how it is with people, its what we all do =D IMO i think Jordan was the better OVERALL player, he had the whole package and was a great leader, not saying Kobe doesn't but i believe Jordan has the extra edge over Kobe.​
 

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Kobe has a good point here but then again both players are extremely talented and VERY competitive. To tell them that you are second to this person is not what they want to hear, that's how competitive people are really. Im sure Phil Jackson knows them better then anyone of us of here, hes a hall of famer coach and has coached both of them. It probably gets annoying being compared back to back with other great players but that's how it is with people, its what we all do =D IMO i think Jordan was the better OVERALL player, he had the whole package and was a great leader, not saying Kobe doesn't but i believe Jordan has the extra edge over Kobe.​


i couldn't have said it better bro.."OVERALL" player. I completely agree and I'm sure Puu would too..lol​
 

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Well, he's just stating the obvious. And it's funny how Kobe got so butthurt and resorted to tweeting about it :)
 

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first of all jordon went to 6 nba finals and never lost not even 1, he didn't even allow a game 7, he was the finals mvp for all 6 of them, kobe however has 5 rings yes but he lost in the finals twice and he was the mvp only 2 times out of the those 5 championships. i am saying this to say that even if kobe won 2 more championships MJ would still have a better record lol. plus MJ is a 5 time season mvp kobe only 1. MJ>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>KOBE by far.
 

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Kobe is my favorite player of all time. He could have put up ridiculous numbers if he hadn't played with Shaq. He wouldn't have 5 rings though. Kobe has a better jumpshot (imo) than Jordan so it would make a 1v1 interesting. I think it's closer than most people think it is. Jordan is still the Goat tho.
 

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Kobe is my favorite player of all time. He could have put up ridiculous numbers if he hadn't played with Shaq. He wouldn't have 5 rings though. Kobe has a better jumpshot (imo) than Jordan so it would make a 1v1 interesting. I think it's closer than most people think it is. Jordan is still the Goat tho.

What you mean to say is that Kobe has a prettier jump shot. Efficiency beats aesthetics every time.
 
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