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I think you need to have Rinnegan that evolved from EMS. Obviously Nagato did not evolve his from EMS and that's why he does not have it, same with Tobi
You need EMS to create a Perfect Susano'o.
However, you need the Rinnegan to stabilize the chakra into its most powerful form.
Sasuke already has the Perfect Susano'o, it's just not stabilized yet.
you only need ems. anyone else who says otherwise is a retard. susano is an ems/ms tech and will stay like that for the rest of the manga, no matter what the fanboys think.