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If I remember correctly didn't madara have the rinnagun active when he summon his perfect susanoo and when he used the meteor technique?
 

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Yeah I believe so

But if you're hinting that he NEEDS the Rinnegan for these jutsu.. I don't think it's enough evidence from what we know. Maybe the meteorite technique since it seems to resemble Nagato's jutsu but I believe his PS is an EMS jutsu. Madara used a regular Susano'o with his Rinnegan active, after all. Doesn't necessarily mean that he HAD to have it.
 

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He did but he insinuated that he used PS against his fight with Hashi, when he didn't have rinnegan. I think he needs rinnegan to use the meteor jutsu though.
 

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He did but he insinuated that he used PS against his fight with Hashi, when he didn't have rinnegan. I think he needs rinnegan to use the meteor jutsu though.

But didn't he say anyone who send the ps died
 

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I think that there would be no use to hide his eye anymore so he may have just let it be.
 

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Madara stated before that Hashirama was the only person who can fight PS, so that means he had it before he awakened Rinnengan because when Madara fought Hashi he didn't have Rinnengan until he lost the fight. Therefore he never used Rinnengan will fighting Hashirama.
 

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Yeah I believe so

But if you're hinting that he NEEDS the Rinnegan for these jutsu.. I don't think it's enough evidence from what we know. Maybe the meteorite technique since it seems to resemble Nagato's jutsu but I believe his PS is an EMS jutsu. Madara used a regular Susano'o with his Rinnegan active, after all. Doesn't necessarily mean that he HAD to have it.

Madara states it himself you need the rinnegan for perfect suusano.
And the meteorite summoning is his personal ms tech
 

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I agree there isn't enough evidence to poInt tht those are rinnigan techs but at same time all the evidence (from what we've seen) poInts to it I mean sharigan techs uses the sharigan o_O and we've seen madara switch his eyes to uses rinnigan to sharigan vise versa but when he used those jutsu he used rinnigan so I'm thinking yeah there rinnigan techs lml
 

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EMS to Rinnegan evolution. The Rinnegan grants the user better control over their chakra. So I think EMS to Rinnegan=
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evolving into this
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And Sasuke is at EMS
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Which is the same thing as
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and once your EMS evolves into Rinnegan, the Susanoo can do that jutsu, to stabalize itself, hope that explains it.
 

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Madara states it himself you need the rinnegan for perfect suusano.
And the meteorite summoning is his personal ms tech

The meteorite technique is the same as this:
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Pains jutsu was just a sample, Madara's Bansho Tennin is the real deal. You see it translates into "universal pull", and that is exactly what it does, pulls down a meteor from the universe!
 
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