Perfect Susano'o vs Kyuubi

[Antdog]

Perfect Susanoo would win. Kurama's isn't made of chakra like when Naruto uses Bijuu Mode, he's made out of flesh and blood here which means he's gonna be cut when PS blades+shockwaves come in contact with his body and I doubt PS is gonna need many hits to take out Kurama. On the otherhand PS took a Bijuudama head on without any damage and it took the combie force of 12+ Bijuudama's to take out PS, something Kurama isn't gonna get a chance to do so yeah PS would win.

 

[ninjarasengan]

Perfect Susanoo would win. Kurama's isn't made of chakra like when Naruto uses Bijuu Mode, he's made out of flesh and blood here which means he's gonna be cut when PS blades+shockwaves come in contact with his body and I doubt PS is gonna need many hits to take out Kurama. On the otherhand PS took a Bijuudama head on without any damage and it took the combie force of 12+ Bijuudama's to take out PS, something Kurama isn't gonna get a chance to do so yeah PS would win.

No proof at all that Chakra flesh Kurama is less durable than the Avatar version.

 

[UnknownJin]

No proof at all that Chakra flesh Kurama is less durable than the Avatar version.

i would agree,was thinking the same. Isnt avatar version powered up by chakra?

 

[BenjerminGaye]

depends on the PS user.If rikudo powered then they win if not they lose.

Perfect Susanoo would win. Kurama's isn't made of chakra like when Naruto uses Bijuu Mode, he's made out of flesh and blood here which means he's gonna be cut when PS blades+shockwaves come in contact with his body and I doubt PS is gonna need many hits to take out Kurama. On the otherhand PS took a Bijuudama head on without any damage and it took the combie force of 12+ Bijuudama's to take out PS, something Kurama isn't gonna get a chance to do so yeah PS would win.

stop talking like it wasn't kurama that rapid fired those 12 bijuu damas. If he did it before he'll do it again and net the same result.

 

[ninjarasengan]

i would agree,was thinking the same. Isnt avatar version powered up by chakra?

Normally? I don't think so...but definitely when Naruto absorbs Natural energy.

The question is...since he did it at Vote2, could Kurama enhance himself with Natural energy while he is free.

 

[LightningNinja]

Full Kurama>PS (Madara leveled and above)>Half Kurama.

I remember that we both agreed that PS (Madara's) would beat Full Kurama and the reason was that PS can take the bijuudamas but kurama can't and will only injure himself, while PS swords will hurt and eventually will kill Kurama. And there is also the fact that PS is much stronger physically which will give him an advantage.

 

[KidGamer65]

I remember that we both agreed that PS (Madara's) would beat Full Kurama and the reason was that PS can take the bijuudamas but kurama can't and will only injure himself, while PS swords will hurt and eventually will kill Kurama. And there is also the fact that PS is much stronger physically which will give him an advantage.

Lmao! Totally forgot. You're right. I keep forgetting that this isn't PS Kurama since every time this thread is made I reference VoTE 2 to determine who would win.

 

[Antdog]

No proof at all that Chakra flesh Kurama is less durable than the Avatar version.

It's less about durability and more about what they are made of. The avatar is made of pure chakra while the other is made of flesh and bones and what not. If it's made out of pure chakra, it's not gonna feel any pain at all, that means that it can't "die" so to speak. On the otherhand a living Kurama will bleed from cuts, it will die if it's head is cut off, etc.

 

[Antdog]

stop talking like it wasn't kurama that rapid fired those 12 bijuu damas.

Did I say it wasn't?

If he did it before he'll do it again and net the same result.

Show me Kurama using that many Bijuudama when he wasn't somebody's pet. Show me any Bijuu that wasn't with a perfect Jin firing off more then one Bijuudama. If you can't then I doubt have much of a reason to assume that Kurama is gonna fire off twelve here let alone do it before PS swings it sword which is likely to happen early on in the match

 

[ninjarasengan]

It's less about durability and more about what they are made of. The avatar is made of pure chakra while the other is made of flesh and bones and what not. If it's made out of pure chakra, it's not gonna feel any pain at all, that means that it can't "die" so to speak. On the otherhand a living Kurama will bleed from cuts, it will die if it's head is cut off, etc.

but, Can PS Cut it? We will never know

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Did I say it wasn't?

stop talking like it wasn't kurama that rapid fired those 12 bijuu damas. If he did it before he'll do it again and net the same result.

Show me Kurama using that many Bijuudama when he wasn't somebody's pet. Show me any Bijuu that wasn't with a perfect Jin firing off more then one Bijuudama. If you can't then I doubt have much of a reason to assume that Kurama is gonna fire off twelve here let alone do it before PS swings it sword which is likely to happen early on in the match

since when was using multiple tbb a jinchuriki exclusive ability? why fck i got to show you proof when youre the one making the claim he can't? Show me a scan saying that it's a jin exclusive ability.

 

[Antdog]

but, Can PS Cut it? We will never know

I've got no reason to think it can so I'll go with yes.

 

[Antdog]

since when was using multiple tbb a jinchuriki exclusive ability?

Show me a scan saying that it's a jin exclusive ability.

Did I say it was?

why fck i got to show you proof when youre the one making the claim he can't?

Because you claimed "If he did it before he'll do it again". Did you see Kurama do it again when fighting Naruto and the mental plane and spam 12 Bijuudama's? I know I didn't. When Kurama was freed from Obito's control on the night Minato died, did you see Kurama do it again and spam 12 Bijuudama's while fighting a village? I know I didn't. Hell can you show me any Bijuu spamming more then one Bijuudama period? I know I haven't seen such a thing done.

Just because somebody/something can do something doesn't mean they will do something. We have seen and have been hinted time and time again that Bijuu in general don't go around spamming Bijuudama let alone multiple of them. So if you can't show me Kurama doing it himself, why exact should I believe your claim of "If he did it before he'll do it again" when every other time tells me otherwise. If you can't show me Kurama doing it right off the bat when he's a mindless beast or in control(not an Uchiha's pet) then why should I believe your claim of "If he did it before he'll do it again" would happen before PS swings it's swords which is likely to happen first?

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Did I say it was?

youre implying that is. -_-

Because you claimed "If he did it before he'll do it again". Did you see Kurama do it again when fighting Naruto and the mental plane and spam 12 Bijuudama's? I know I didn't. When Kurama was freed from Obito's control on the night Minato died, did you see Kurama do it again and spam 12 Bijuudama's while fighting a village? I know I didn't. Hell can you show me any Bijuu spamming more then one Bijuudama period? I know I haven't seen such a thing done.

He did it in the madara vs hashirama fight. Unless you think being controlled by madara somehow gave him new abilities.

Just because somebody/something can do something doesn't mean they will do something.

It actually does.

We have seen and have been hinted time and time again that Bijuu in general don't go around spamming Bijuudama let alone multiple of them.

that's never been hinted at. They use whatever they feel is appropriate for the opponent they're facing, and to ad to that that's half kurama.

So if you can't show me Kurama doing it himself, why exact should I believe your claim of "If he did it before he'll do it again" when every other time tells me otherwise. If you can't show me Kurama doing it right off the bat when he's a mindless beast or in control(not an Uchiha's pet) then why should I believe your claim of "If he did it before he'll do it again" would happen before PS swings it's swords which is likely to happen first?

He's already did it himself. Being under madara's control doesn't in anyway increase his power output. -_-

the only thing at that size that out sped kurama was juubi so yes. he'll do it again.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

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[Antdog]

youre implying that is. -_-

No I'm not, that's just you jumping to conclusions.

He did it in the madara vs hashirama fight. Unless you think being controlled by madara somehow gave him new abilities.

He's already did it himself. Being under madara's control doesn't in anyway increase his power output. -_-

So he did it as someone's pet when being forced to do it instead of doing it of his own free will?

It actually does.

Oh it does? Oh that must be why we've seen Kurama used more then one Bijuudama at a time when he's by himself. Oh wait...

Well at least that's why we saw the Sandaime Raikage use Black Raiton as an Edo. Oh wait...

Well at least that's why we saw Deidara use C3 as an Edo and against Sasuke. Oh wait...

Well at least that's why we saw Edo Madara summon down meteors more then once. Oh wait...

Well at least that's why we saw Itachi use exploding clones in every fight. Oh wait...

Well at least that's why we saw Naruto use summoning jutsu in everyone of his fights in part two. Oh wait

Well at least that's why we saw Gaara sink people 200 meters in every fight just like he did to Kimimaro. Oh wait

Well at least that's why we saw Kakashi summon his dogs to attack people in fights just like he did to Zabuza. Oh wait...

Well at least that's why we saw Sasuke use Kirin in every single fight he's been in. Oh wait

I could go on but you get the point. You are wrong, once again just because a person can do something, that doesn't mean they will do something, draw a bridge and get over.

that's never been hinted at. They use whatever they feel is appropriate for the opponent they're facing, and to ad to that that's half kurama.

>Never been hinted
>Gyuki never nuked A+the Sandaime Raikage+ the entire village with mass Bijuudama spam
>Shukaku never nuked Suna whenever he went out of control with mass Bijuudama spam but got bested by Rasa
>Matatabi didn't nuke Kakuzu+Hidan to hell and back with mass Bijuudama spam
>Isobu didn't nuke Deidara to hell and back with mass Bijuudama spam
>Kurama didn't nuke Konoha when fighting against the village once he was free of Obito's control with mass Bijuudama spam
>Kurama didn't nuke Naruto in their mental plan with mass Bijuudama spam

But oh yeah it's never been hinted that Bijuu don't spam Bijuudama

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the only thing at that size that out sped kurama was juubi so yes. he'll do it again.

And yet nothing supports your case as no Bijuu has done such a thing when they were alone. I'll stick with the manga which suggest Kurama's likely to not do such a thing let alone early enough seeing as how we've seen Kurama in more then one fight and he never did such as opposed to your opinion which you think is a fact.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

No I'm not, that's just you jumping to conclusions.

do you know what the word imply means?

So he did it as someone's pet when being forced to do it instead of doing it of his own free will?

does that change his power in any way whatsoever?

Oh it does? Oh that must be why we've seen Kurama used more then one Bijuudama at a time when he's by himself. Oh wait...

Well at least that's why we saw the Sandaime Raikage use Black Raiton as an Edo. Oh wait...

Well at least that's why we saw Deidara use C3 as an Edo and against Sasuke. Oh wait...

Well at least that's why we saw Edo Madara summon down meteors more then once. Oh wait...

Well at least that's why we saw Itachi use exploding clones in every fight. Oh wait...

Well at least that's why we saw Naruto use summoning jutsu in everyone of his fights in part two. Oh wait

Well at least that's why we saw Gaara sink people 200 meters in every fight just like he did to Kimimaro. Oh wait

Well at least that's why we saw Kakashi summon his dogs to attack people in fights just like he did to Zabuza. Oh wait...

Well at least that's why we saw Sasuke use Kirin in every single fight he's been in. Oh wait

I could go on but you get the point. You are wrong, once again just because a person can do something, that doesn't mean they will do something, draw a bridge and get over.

its a poor point. In the context of this discussion it does. There's 0 reason why kurama wouldn't do. character biases don't play a role here unless specifically stated in the op. Which it wasn't.

>Never been hinted
>Gyuki never nuked A+the Sandaime Raikage+ the entire village with mass Bijuudama spam

because we saw the entire fight between gyuuki and ay right? oh wait no we didn't nor does it matter.

>Shukaku never nuked Suna whenever he went out of control with mass Bijuudama spam but got bested by Rasa

technically we've never seen shukaku use bijudama, are you gonna come out and say he can't do it period?

>Matatabi didn't nuke Kakuzu+Hidan to hell and back with mass Bijuudama spam

same as the above^

>Isobu didn't nuke Deidara to hell and back with mass Bijuudama spam

same as the above^

>Kurama didn't nuke Konoha when fighting against the village once he was free of Obito's control with mass Bijuudama spam

he didnt do it when obito had contol over him either, are you gonna say only madara can make kurama do it?

>Kurama didn't nuke Naruto in their mental plan with mass Bijuudama spam

half kurama and again irrelevent.

But oh yeah it's never been hinted that Bijuu don't spam Bijuudama

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you misunderstand. because they wont doesn't mean they cant.

And yet nothing supports your case as no Bijuu has done such a thing when they were alone. I'll stick with the manga which suggest Kurama's likely to not do such a thing let alone early enough seeing as how we've seen Kurama in more then one fight and he never did such as opposed to your opinion which you think is a fact.

outside of kurama and gyuki already doing it.
sure fam, kurama can only do it when under madara's 3 tome genjutsu. Without it hes limited to 1

 

[BLAZE]

why can't bijuu spam BD when Full kurama already did :|

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[BenjerminGaye]

why can't bijuu spam BD when Full kurama already did :|

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apparently he needs to be under 3t sharingan genjutsu by madara or be a jinchuriki in order to do it.

That's the logic homeboy is going with.

 

[BLAZE]

apparently he needs to be under 3t sharingan genjutsu by madara or be a jinchuriki in order to do it.

That's the logic homeboy is going with.

so he is saying getting under 3T genjutsu grants bijuu extra feats

damn