perfect sage mode

[Warlocks]

only asura's descendant/reincarnated have perfect sage mode without any fault/ Body Modifications

Hashirama

Naruto


not descendant/reincarnated of asura

Kabuto with Body Modifications


Imperfected Sage Mode

Jiraiya


not sure about minato but

Minato

senjutsu is not his strong point, as it takes him too long to gather
natural energy and he can't maintain it for very long


Jūgo isnt list as sage mode user

Despite Jūgo being a user of Sage Transformation,
none of his techniques are listed as senjutsu in the fourth databook



so we only 2 perfect sage mode user|(without any fault/ Body Modifications ) Hashirama & Naruto both are descendant/reincarnated of asura

 

[The Demon Hawk]

Minato has PSM which totally dumps your entire argument. The only reason he can't maintain is for long is his chakra levels. Plus, the manga never stated that Ashura's reincarnations are the only one capable of that, so you have no support for your argument either.

It's proven that they are not the only people who can attain Perfect Sage Mode. Anyone can who has:
1. Perfect CC
2. Can perfectly execute the intake of NE and harmoniously mix it with their own chakra in correct proportions (which requires skill)
3. Has large chakra reserves
...can easily attain Perfect Sage Mode, e.g. Sasuke.

 

[Michael]

Minato has PSM which totally dumps your entire argument. The only reason he can't maintain is for long is his chakra levels. Plus, the manga never stated that Ashura's reincarnations are the only one capable of that, so you have no support for your argument either.

It's proven that they are not the only people who can attain Perfect Sage Mode. Anyone can who has:
1. Perfect CC
2. Can perfectly execute the intake of NE and harmoniously mix it with their own chakra in correct proportions (which requires skill)
3. Has large chakra reserves
...can easily attain Perfect Sage Mode, e.g. Sasuke.

Some people simply cannot handle alot of natural energy, especially jugo and sasuke. Natural energy basically made jugo unstable and sasuke although handled the curse mark well, he was almost overtaken numerous times. Also Sage mode >>> Curse mark, cm is a failed alternative SM for weaklings that can't handle/gain SM.

 

[Solidus Solidus Solidus]

Ashura Transmigrant -> Perfect SM
Indra Transmigrant -> Perfect MS

Makes sense

 

[The Demon Hawk]

Some people simply cannot handle alot of natural energy, especially jugo and sasuke.

A lot of natural energy has no business here. You only need the amount of NE that mixes with your chakra in correct proportions, genius. And Sasuke can easily handle that amount of NE. He has all the skills and capabilities for that. So please STFU!

And BTW, nothing supports your argument that Rikodou Sasuke cannot handle NE. So double STFU!

Natural energy basically made jugo unstable and sasuke although handled the curse mark well, he was almost overtaken numerous times.

Sasuke lacked control previously, that's why he was overtaken numerous times. In Part 2, Sasuke was perfect and masterful in its usage, and hence CM didn't overpower Sasuke even once.

Also Sage mode >>> Curse mark, cm is a failed alternative SM for weaklings that can't handle/gain SM.

Just because Sasuke forcefully got CM doesn't prove that Sasuke can't learn SM. Sasuke has every required to learn Perfect Sage Mode.

 

[Ambivalence]

Naruto is the best with it and always will be.

 

[Nick01]

Some people simply cannot handle alot of natural energy, especially jugo and sasuke. Natural energy basically made jugo unstable and sasuke although handled the curse mark well, he was almost overtaken numerous times. Also Sage mode >>> Curse mark, cm is a failed alternative SM for weaklings that can't handle/gain SM.

I agree.

 

[Warlocks]

Minato has PSM which totally dumps your entire argument. The only reason he can't maintain is for long is his chakra levels. Plus, the manga never stated that Ashura's reincarnations are the only one capable of that, so you have no support for your argument either.

It's proven that they are not the only people who can attain Perfect Sage Mode. Anyone can who has:
1. Perfect CC
2. Can perfectly execute the intake of NE and harmoniously mix it with their own chakra in correct proportions (which requires skill)
3. Has large chakra reserves
...can easily attain Perfect Sage Mode, e.g. Sasuke.

show me 1 Perfect Sage Mode user exclude (naruto,Hashirama)

without any fault/ Body Modifications then i will belive that my argument is wrong and has no support

 

[The Demon Hawk]

show me 1 Perfect Sage Mode user exclude (naruto,Hashirama)

without any fault/ Body Modifications then i will belive that my argument is wrong and has no support

Irrelevant. If they fulfill the conditions, they CAN attain SM. Whether they attained it or not is irrelevant.

Show me any such user who tried and failed, then I'll believe you.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Irrelevant. If they fulfill the conditions, they CAN attain SM. Whether they attained it or not is irrelevant.

Show me any such user who tried and failed, then I'll believe you.

so your arguments are "individual can, so that disproves this thread"?

 

[super michael]

Naruto was doing training to enter Sage Mode faster and extending Sage mode time, so it is possible that Minato didn't get the chance to do that.

Just incase The time when Naruto was training to extend sage mode or enter sage mode faster was around the time when the Ninja wanted to kill Sasuke, I could be wrong though.

Remember this, normally the frog teach to summon them to get into Sage mode to fuse, Minato and Naruto are the only frog Sage mode user who can enter sage mode without fusing with frogs.

Hashirama is a unknown sage mode.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

so your arguments are "individual can, so that disproves this thread"?

If Sasuke can, then that means Ashura's reincarnations aren't the only ones capable of that. Period. And don't try to bring in the lame ass excuses like "Oh, when did the OP ever state that". We all know what the OP was trying to imply.

 

[NarutoX28]

Minato could.

His only issue was kneading Senjutsu Chakra and being able to perfectly balance Natural Energy w/ his own Chakras for an extended period of time. Aside from that, he's a Perfect Sage.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

If Sasuke can, then that means Ashura's reincarnations aren't the only ones capable of that. Period. And don't try to bring in the lame ass excuses like "Oh, when did the OP ever state that". We all know what the OP was trying to imply.

I dont think sasuke can

 

[The Demon Hawk]

I dont think sasuke can

Yes, he can. He fulfills all the conditions that are canonically required to attain SM.

 

[NarutoX28]

I dont think sasuke can

Great, we think he can. :lol

 

[Warlocks]

Irrelevant. If they fulfill the conditions, they CAN attain SM. Whether they attained it or not is irrelevant.

Show me any such user who tried and failed, then I'll believe you.

here those who tried and failed

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[gerizzyYMcrew]

Great, we think he can. :lol

I dont care about what you think...so it doesnt matter

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Yes, he can. He fulfills all the conditions that are canonically required to attain SM.

what makes you think sasuke can find time to sit still and gain natural energy during his fights?...
it goes against sasuke's style of battle...I dont think he can do that...besides he cant even sense natural energy

 

[lndra]

Did someone really say Sasuke couldn't learn Sage Mode? Really :lol

Sasuke has been using an extension of Sage power since Part 1 Naruto.