[VS] Perfect Minato VS Mangekyo Itachi

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Area: Training Grounds
Distance: Same as Minato v. A4
Mindset: Bloodlusted for Itachi, Minato is calm w/ murderous intent
Knowledge: Manga

Conditions:
-Itachi is disallowed from applicating V4 Sasuno supplemented w/ Yata Mirror and Totsuka
-KCM, BM are permitted. Toads supplement Minato with Kansēntai Sennin Modo
 

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Area: Training Grounds
Distance: Same as Minato v. A4
Mindset: Bloodlusted for Itachi, Minato is calm w/ murderous intent
Knowledge: Manga

Conditions:
-Itachi is disallowed from applicating V4 Sasuno supplemented w/ Yata Mirror and Totsuka
-KCM, BM are permitted. Toads supplement Minato with Kansēntai Sennin Modo
Minato already scales close to Itachi in standard form, so with KCM he totally out-scales him.


Minato scales to base RK without the beast boosts, while Itachi scales to V1 RK via Sasuke - MS Sasuke being slightly faster than 3T Sasuke from the Itachi fight, but Itachi having been stated as normally faster than what he showed against 3T Sasuke. When Minato then uses a technique that mimics speed, he gets action-reaction scaling that puts him a level above his normal scaling. Since KCM gave Naruto an roughly equal speed boost to SM, which took him from being below Kakashi in speed to being close to V2 Raikage, Minato is likely to get a similar 2 level boost, which would take him 2 levels above Itachi in action-reaction scaling.


On top of that, he counters Itachi very well. The Black Flames are deflected with V1 Energy Armour, Timeless Illusions with superior energy control and Energy Armour with any of Beast Form, Teleporting or possibly sealing.


Even without those powers, teleporting makes life very difficult for Itachi. Any technique he uses is either dodged or gets sent elsewhere, possibly back to him. FTG may have poor offense, but its defensive utility is almost unmatched in shinobi techniques.


When it comes to summons, Itachi has one of the best against the Anti-Contract Seal, since he has so many crows. However, those have no direct applications against an opponent with the trickery of Minato. On the other hand, a desperate Minato could access the likes of Gamabunta, Fukasaku and Shima, any of whom could beat Itachi.


The Sealing Blade and Element Mirror are useless against someone who does not offer conventional attack and defense. If Minato was somehow tagged by the blade, he would just teleport away before the sealing began. His Rasengan is non-elemental.
 

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Minato already scales close to Itachi in standard form, so with KCM he totally out-scales him.
:lol Hell nah. Itachi isn't equatable to any version of Minato even in base, he phenomenally exceeds his calibre.

Itachi exceeded Killer Bee applicating Eight Sword Style, and KCM Naruto and axiomatically blitzed them several times in a single CQC Exchange.
Minato scales to base RK without the beast boosts, while Itachi scales to V1 RK via Sasuke - MS Sasuke being slightly faster than 3T Sasuke from the Itachi fight, but Itachi having been stated as normally faster than what he showed against 3T Sasuke. When Minato then uses a technique that mimics speed, he gets action-reaction scaling that puts him a level above his normal scaling. Since KCM gave Naruto an roughly equal speed boost to SM, which took him from being below Kakashi in speed to being close to V2 Raikage, Minato is likely to get a similar 2 level boost, which would take him 2 levels above Itachi in action-reaction scaling.
- Sasuke isn't an excellent parameters to gauge MS Itachi's performance seeing as they exist stratospheres apart when it comes to battle finnesse. Itachi blitzed CS1 Sasuke multiple times in Itachi's illusions which are legitimate features (as far as the authorial intent is concerned) implying that Sasuke even in his MS incarnation is nowhere near his sibling when it comes to all speed parameters.
- SM is significantly superior to KCM in speeds. KCM isn't superior to Kakashi, who explicitly outdid it VS Rinne Obito. Minato is significantly superior to KCM Naruto but that simply implies that he exists on the exact same ballpark as Raikiri Kakashi & 6G Guy in movement speeds not equatable or proximates.
- That wasn't v2 Ei - he got stripped of the pertinent manifestation of RnY VS MS Sasuke who drilled his mirage and presumably incinerated it to ash.
On top of that, he counters Itachi very well. The Black Flames are deflected with V1 Energy Armour, Timeless Illusions with superior energy control and Energy Armour with any of Beast Form, Teleporting or possibly sealing.
Nope. We know that Itachi's techniques are based on exorbitant skills of weaving a magic spell (like illusions require excellent precise chakra control to radiate, ensnare prolong and mitigate the enemies' ability to circumvent it. Itachi's excellent skills implicate that he would incinerate and penetrate the Kyuubi Armour with little difficulty as the thermal quality (temperatures) of his emissions of the black lacquer fire significantly transcends MS/EMS/Rinne Sasuke's by Manga implicature.
Even without those powers, teleporting makes life very difficult for Itachi. Any technique he uses is either dodged or gets sent elsewhere, possibly back to him. FTG may have poor offense, but its defensive utility is almost unmatched in shinobi techniques.
Except Warping is speed if the authorial intent is to be acknowledged. Minato mixed his Yellow Flash moniker under his acquisition via Hiraishin, which implies that the author believes Hiraishin to be speed based implying Itachi can transcend it's traversal velocities with magnificent speeds like he exemplified to be in the Manga. So no, he isn't warping any technique of Itachi's.
When it comes to summons, Itachi has one of the best against the Anti-Contract Seal, since he has so many crows. However, those have no direct applications against an opponent with the trickery of Minato. On the other hand, a desperate Minato could access the likes of Gamabunta, Fukasaku and Shima, any of whom could beat Itachi.
:lol What the hell? The collective encompassed brigade of Toads don't begin to radiate the features necessitated to hang with the likes of Itachi let alone any one of them. Minato's trickery is inconsequential seeing as Itachi's style heavily weaponizes the very incarnate definition of trickery (Flock Crows Magic, Kunai Knives pressure point piercing, excellent magnificent reality simulating illusions, manifesting spiritual deities like Susano'o, The Yata Mirror, and Totsuka, widely accolade battle IQ.).
The Sealing Blade and Element Mirror are useless against someone who does not offer conventional attack and defense. If Minato was somehow tagged by the blade, he would just teleport away before the sealing began. His Rasengan is non-elemental.
Databook and Manga disagrees.
Minato > obito > itachi
Manga disagrees pal. Itachi >> MS Obito >> Minato.
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:lol Hell nah. Itachi isn't equatable to any version of Minato even in base, he phenomenally exceeds his calibre.

Itachi exceeded Killer Bee applicating Eight Sword Style, and KCM Naruto and axiomatically blitzed them several times in a single CQC Exchange
If you're considering the usage of techniques, then Minato also exceeded KB.


Now i do think that everyone improved since their younger days, but Itachi simply stepped back against B. He did not counter him. Im talking about their physical stats, by the way.


He didn't blitz. He tried to and got caught, then had to rely on casting illusions and using weapons. Even so, B alone reacted just fine.


Finally, that was a reanimated Itachi with full health and no drawbacks (pain and blindness) from using his powers. This is a living Itachi who will suffer drawbacks.



- Sasuke isn't an excellent parameters to gauge MS Itachi's performance seeing as they exist stratospheres apart when it comes to battle finnesse. Itachi blitzed CS1 Sasuke multiple times in Itachi's illusions which are legitimate features (as far as the authorial intent is concerned) implying that Sasuke even in his MS incarnation is nowhere near his sibling when it comes to all speed parameters.
- SM is significantly superior to KCM in speeds. KCM isn't superior to Kakashi, who explicitly outdid it VS Rinne Obito. Minato is significantly superior to KCM Naruto but that simply implies that he exists on the exact same ballpark as Raikiri Kakashi & 6G Guy in movement speeds not equatable or proximates.
- That wasn't v2 Ei - he got stripped of the pertinent manifestation of RnY VS MS Sasuke who drilled his mirage and presumably incinerated it to ash
- They clashed directly, so he is an excellent benchmark. Those stratospheres must be quite small since Itachi was genuinely struggling to physically match Sasuke. And Sasuke did not even use his summoning abilities. Again, I'm talking about physical stat scaling.
- Naruto vs 3rd RK tells us otherwise. They're practically equal. In teamwork, some guys hold back to accommodate others. We can confirm this because standard Gai is physically superior to Kakashi, so Gai in 6th Gate is vastly superior. So since Kakashi was tagging along with Gai using gates, its clear that they simply coordinated their attacks. Besides this, Itachi himself never outclassed Kakashi in a direct physical clash, so . . . And of course, it is possible that Kakashi improved, perhaps due to continued usage of the superior energy of the MS.
- The 4th RK still had it active after initial contact with the Black Flames, so it is unlikely that his V2 ability was lost. Also, the only difference between V1 and V2 Lightning Armour is how much energy you put into it, so if you can d V1 you can also do V2.



Except Warping is speed if the authorial intent is to be acknowledged. Minato mixed his Yellow Flash moniker under his acquisition via Hiraishin, which implies that the author believes Hiraishin to be speed based implying Itachi can transcend it's traversal velocity with magnificent speeds like he exemplified to be in the Manga. So no, he isn't warping any technique of Itachi's.
Even putting aside our lack of authority in deciphering and dictating authorial intent, that would simply make it a different type of speed, since the author intentionally showed teleporting working differently than simple movement.


Besides that, where do you get it that Itachi can overcome any and all speeds? Even if teleporting was normal speed, it can be too fast for Itachi.


lol What the hell? The collective encompassed brigade of Toads don't begin to radiate the features necessitated to hang with the likes of Itachi let alone any one of them. Minato's trickery is inconsequential seeing as Itachi's style heavily weaponizes the very incarnate definition of trickery (Flock Crows Magic, Kunai Knives pressure point piercing, excellent magnificent reality simulating illusions, manifesting spiritual deities like Susano'o, The Yata Mirror, and Totsuka, widely accolade battle IQ
Summons were considered the answer when the physical speed of EMS Sasuke and KCM Naruto were lacking, so they are easily enough to "hang with the likes of Itachi".


The same can be said of Minato. In a direct clash, Minato beat Itachi in intelligence with the highest academy scores.



Databook and Manga disagrees
Manga: " Yata Mirror reflects elements", "Totsuka seals anything it pierces".


Minato has non-elemental attacks and can warp away from the blade.


Otherwise, please send my greetings next time you talk to this manga and databook you speak of. :D
 

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Yes that obito could control kurama while itachi could barely deal with jiraya
Using trickery, specific training from Madara and unique genetics specifically suited to suppressing Kurama.

Itachi ran, and Obito confessed to living an entire life of running from Itachi . . .
 
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