Perfect jinjuriky is invincible to genjutsu

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I have seen many people having this misconception about genjutsu effect on jinjuriki .

1. Danzo said that only Madara , Hashirama , Yagura and Bee has the ability to controll bijuu .

2. Bee mentioned during the fight with sasuke that Perfect jinjuriky cannot be affected by genjutsu . Because the jinjuriky will snap him out of it .

3. So the question is how obito controlled Yagura ?

Now here is my explanation -

When Danzo mentioned those name he only meant those who had the ability to control bijuu . Not that the bijuu is supportive to the jinjuriky. Only when the bijuu willingly helping the jinjuriky then the bijuu will snap the jinjuriki out of genjutsu. See that Danzo mentioned Madara ,who never was a perfect jinjuriki(I mean bijuu never willingly helped him). But he could force a bijuu to obey him. And that's why madara can also be affected by genjutsu . The bijuu wont help him to escape. And that is the case with Yagura . He was not a perfect
jinjuriki . He could just control the bijuu.(Like madara) And that's why he could be put under genjutsu by obito. Otherwise the bijuu would not let obito control him.

So it is not like obito used some master kind of genjutsu on Yagura and that's why it worked on him.(Unless shown otherwise). And until now perfect jinjuriki like Naruto , Bee are immune to genjutsu.
 

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actually they are not immune like u saw in bee vs sasuke ... the genjutsu hit him and THEN few secs later he snaped out same in the itachi vs bee fight .. but the thing ist just 1 sec. is enought for tsukiomy (sry if i miss spelled it) to get rid of u .. since 1s = 72h
 

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obito's genjutsu worked, because it was a powerful genjutsu, a jutsu of such a high prowess,

that the mizukage compared it to that of shisui's, a master of genjutsus


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Obito most likely simply entered the domain of the Tailed Beast, similar to what a pre-Hebi Sasuke was able to do, and casted a Genjutsu, similar to the one that controlled Manda, on the Sanbi. The Mizukage is simply speculating.
 

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You finally figured it out *claps*
No , I did not "finally" figured it out . I have seen many use this argument during sasuke vs Naruto or Itachi vs Naruto thread . I was not signed up then . And that's why after signing up I wanted to make it clear . If you think this is so obvious see the post above yours .
 

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Biju don't function on the same plane as regular people when there inside a jin. They can freely talk to their Jin and wake them up instantly from genjutsu.
 

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obito's genjutsu worked, because it was a powerful genjutsu, a jutsu of such a high prowess,

that the mizukage compared it to that of shisui's, a master of genjutsus


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Mizukage was amazed by obito's power . Putting a kage level shinobi under genjutsu and control him year after year without noticing anybody is impressive . Here she did not say anything about Yagura being perfect jinjuriky.
 

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Obito most likely simply entered the domain of the Tailed Beast, similar to what a pre-Hebi Sasuke was able to do, and casted a Genjutsu, similar to the one that controlled Manda, on the Sanbi. The Mizukage is simply speculating.
No no no . Naruto's mind (which we see ) is not like a dimension . It is just a state of mind . And there is no proof that someone can have any affect over there .
 

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No no no . Naruto's mind (which we see ) is not like a dimension . It is just a state of mind . And there is no proof that someone can have any affect over there .
Yes, actually, Sasuke demonstrated exactly how one can have an effect there. By going there they can cast their Genjutsu directly.
 

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Sasuke, Tsukuyomi and IT say no.
IT is a special case of genjutsu . You do not even have to be any where near the genjutsu casting . It's more like another jutsu . And for tsukyomi , I did not say that you cannot put junjuriky under genjutsu . There is many manga proof that Bee was under genjutsu . I am just saying that whatever the genjutsu , the bijuu will snap the jinjuriky out of it .
 

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Biju don't function on the same plane as regular people when there inside a jin. They can freely talk to their Jin and wake them up instantly from genjutsu.
The Bijuu still have to have time to react to the Genjutsu and give their Jinchuuriki some Chakra. That is fast, but definitely not instant.
 

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Yes, actually, Sasuke demonstrated exactly how one can have an effect there. By going there they can cast their Genjutsu directly.
Really ? And why madara and obito had hard time fighting (Naruto ,Bee , Kakashi and Gai ) . They could just cast genjutsu . You have no proof supporting your statement that anyone from outside can have any affect on inside Naruto . Sasuke just surpassed Kyuubi's chakra which was leaking . Like hashirama's locket or Yamato's mokton does .
 
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