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theory on perfect jinchuriki/genjutsu

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foxyladyland

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i was going to give you a sample of my prediction thread before i officially put it out there
but your just going to have to wait.....for the ones who voted, i want to thank you it is on the way...

but this is about Perfect Jinchuriki and Genjutsu.
Naruto/KillerBee and someone else(the Mist ninja/'a kage i guess)
i think they could still get put under genjutsu no matter what the characters say..
and this is why
sasuke eats karin
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just kiddinxd
but seriously this
Tsuki no mi "Sasuke style" or whatever his is called
i notice sasuke impaled bee with his own swords like itachi impaled oro with nails
[video=youtube;u-xQYikKIU4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-xQYikKIU4&feature=player_detailpage#t=25s[/video]
you notice at 29 secs Sasuke catches Bee's Clone in Genjutsu for a few seconds
not a long time but it still worked although Bee did figure it out quickly.....he was still caught and did fall to the ground...
now here is where it gets interesting!!!!!!!!!
Madara/Obito both had control over Kurama before....Naruto has been under Itachi's Genjutsu before, easily
Madara could control Kurama while Obito controls Naruto simutaineously(spelling)with genjutsu...
however this was started with the idea that Mada/Obito controlled Kurama with Genjutsu and not some seal, now i just remember Minato breaking the seal Obito had on Kurama...nevermind
but one of my theories was that could happen while they make naruto fight Sasuke and Orochimaru with the Edo Hokages perhaps...but whatever......predictions for the rest of naruto coming soon....i just have so many ideas guys just wait
prediction: Oro(in Sasuke's body perhaps)or Just Sasuke battle Naruto's Clones and uses Jutsu to make some of the clones fight Naruto!!
 

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They can get put under, but their Bijuu will just snap em out of it, so it's useless.
 

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They can get put under, but their Bijuu will just snap em out of it, so it's useless.

bijuu can get put under as well
what if mada and obito cast it on naruto and kurama both\
if that could happen
 

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Do you not have basic comprehensive skills?

The Bijuu in its corporeal form can be put under Genjutsu in the case of Kurama and the Base form of a person can be put in a Genjutsu, but as a perfect Jinchuriki, they are one conscious with two minds. It's useless to use Genjutsu because when one mind is faltering under it the second mind being the Bijuu will just snap the person out of it.
 

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Do you not have basic comprehensive skills?

The Bijuu in its corporeal form can be put under Genjutsu in the case of Kurama and the Base form of a person can be put in a Genjutsu, but as a perfect Jinchuriki, they are one conscious with two minds. It's useless to use Genjutsu because when one mind is faltering under it the second mind being the Bijuu will just snap the person out of it.

dont you understand??? I said if mada cast it on kurama
and obito cast it on naruto.........like sasuke can look inside naruto and talk to kurama and suppress his chakra
mada and obito could maybe together targeting naruto and kurama
 

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They can get put under, but their Bijuu will just snap em out of it, so it's useless.
What about Yagura?
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^ He was a perfect Jinchuriki, and yet he was being controlled by Tobi.
 

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What about Yagura?
^ He was a perfect Jinchuriki, and yet he was being controlled by Tobi.

finally someone with common sense in their brain
what do you think about my theory that
two casters could cst genjutsu on
the human and the beast together
 
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^ Hey thanks.

It's still a mystery as to how Tobi/Obito could control a Perfect Jinchuriki. Was it a one time genjutsu like KA?

idk i wonder was it something by kishi for us to think tobi was shisui
 

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What about Yagura?
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^ He was a perfect Jinchuriki, and yet he was being controlled by Tobi.

Yeah this has annoyed me as well.....especially since the capture of Isobu (3-tails) depicted him without a Host?! Did this mean the existed separately of one another?!


OT: Interesting theory. If Obito managed to take Naruto, and then with perfect timing Madara managed to enter the subconcious and take Kurama.....I guess it is plausible! At best what is really happening is Madara supresses Kurama's chakra well enough to where Kurama can't break the genjutsu. And even then, due to Naruto and Kurama melding chakra pools they may be susceptible to genjutsu because they now have one coherent chakra pool instead of two separate ones (may explain Yagura).
 

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Do you not have basic comprehensive skills?

The Bijuu in its corporeal form can be put under Genjutsu in the case of Kurama and the Base form of a person can be put in a Genjutsu, but as a perfect Jinchuriki, they are one conscious with two minds. It's useless to use Genjutsu because when one mind is faltering under it the second mind being the Bijuu will just snap the person out of it.

I wish I could rep you.
 

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Yeah this has annoyed me as well.....especially since the capture of Isobu (3-tails) depicted him without a Host?! Did this mean the existed separately of one another?!


OT: Interesting theory. If Obito managed to take Naruto, and then with perfect timing Madara managed to enter the subconcious and take Kurama.....I guess it is plausible! At best what is really happening is Madara supresses Kurama's chakra well enough to where Kurama can't break the genjutsu. And even then, due to Naruto and Kurama melding chakra pools they may be susceptible to genjutsu because they now have one coherent chakra pool instead of two separate ones (may explain Yagura).

I thought that in the Manga it stated he was an incomplete Jinchuruuki?
 

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Dude learn some better English.
 

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What about Yagura?
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^ He was a perfect Jinchuriki, and yet he was being controlled by Tobi.

I believe it was stated in the manga that it was possible that he was a perfect jinchuriki.
 

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OT: Interesting theory. If Obito managed to take Naruto, and then with perfect timing Madara managed to enter the subconcious and take Kurama.....I guess it is plausible! At best what is really happening is Madara supresses Kurama's chakra well enough to where Kurama can't break the genjutsu. And even then, due to Naruto and Kurama melding chakra pools they may be susceptible to genjutsu because they now have one coherent chakra pool instead of two separate ones (may explain Yagura).

thats what ive been saying......are the rest of these guys idiots?!
 

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What about Yagura?
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^ He was a perfect Jinchuriki, and yet he was being controlled by Tobi.

ok so to all the uneducated members here

Perfect jin means you the person who can control the tailed beast
and not all Perfect Jin can get out of genjutsu (except Bee & Naruto)

Bee & naruto are friends with tailed beast so if they get caught in Genjutsu the beast will wake them up but same thing didnt happened with Yagura cause he only controlled the tailed beast, there is no manga evidence that he was friend with 3 tails.

Just like how naruto controlled Kurama in KM but he wasnt friend with kurama, at that time genjutsu could have worked on naruto but not now.

also give me a manga page where it is explained that Yagura became jinchuriki before he was controlled by madara.
cause it can also be that Madara controlled Yagura first then he became jinchuriki dont forget Yagura was under madara's control when Zabuza was just a kid .
 

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ok so to all the uneducated members here

Perfect jin means you the person who can control the tailed beast
and not all Perfect Jin can get out of genjutsu (except Bee & Naruto)

Bee & naruto are friends with tailed beast so if they get caught in Genjutsu the beast will wake them up but same thing didnt happened with Yagura cause he only controlled the tailed beast, there is no manga evidence that he was friend with 3 tails.

Just like how naruto controlled Kurama in KM but he wasnt friend with kurama, at that time genjutsu could have worked on naruto but not now.

also give me a manga page where it is explained that Yagura became jinchuriki before he was controlled by madara.
cause it can also be that Madara controlled Yagura first then he became jinchuriki dont forget Yagura was under madara's control when Zabuza was just a kid .

your right that seems about right..but dont forget that madara your talking about was Obito..
But this is mainly about Perfect Jins being controlled by Two people say if Obito casts Naruto in Genjutsu while Madara at same time
or near casts Kurama in one as well...do you think its possible? I Do
 

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your right that seems about right..but dont forget that madara your talking about was Obito..
But this is mainly about Perfect Jins being controlled by Two people say if Obito casts Naruto in Genjutsu while Madara at same time
or near casts Kurama in one as well...do you think its possible? I Do

no thats not possible
cause when bijuu is inside its host jin
others cant reach bijuu
for example : madara tried to summon kurama but failed cuz he was inside narutos body.

casting a genjutsu on someone inside anothers body is like saying
casting genjutsu on jiraiya while he is inside that damn frog
& u know its not possible
also casting genjutsu on sasori which i think is nearly impossible
 

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It doesn't work like that. Kushina's seal was weakened and the kyuubi was already coming out, the mangekyo Sharingan grants the ability to control kurama (which is what obito did before kurama escaped). If the tailed beast is already inside a jinchuriki this isn't possible hence why Bee snapped out so quickly (he was in Tailed beast cloak - stronger influence by the hachibi).
 
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