Perfect Jin Garaa vs EMS Sauske

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Yeah you have a point, but regardless I still say he was feeling some form of discomfort at best but ill give you the satisfactory of this aspect about shukaku.

Sounds cool with me. And lets say if he was to sustain any real damage (in pain), couldn't he just do what naruto/Bee did and go back to normal then go back to BM healed?
 

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[video=youtube;G-spSwTGjOQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=G-spSwTGjOQ[/video]
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Sounds cool with me. And lets say if he was to sustain any real damage (in pain), couldn't he just do what naruto/Bee did and go back to normal then go back to BM healed?

Yeah your right, I think a Perfect Gaara jink is underestimated here a bit.
 

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Yeah your right, I think a Perfect Gaara jink is underestimated here a bit.

In a dessert for sure!!!! (even though he could make one almost anywhere)

When fighting regular gaara in a dessert you constantly have to move and will never be allowed to stay in one spot for too long. Sasuke will be forced off bat to spam ms techs and waist precious chakra. The hands of Shukaku are a ***** to avoid let alone BM with constant Wind bullets and sand Tsunamis mixed with quick sand every step you take.... GG
 

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Are you really comparing Wood to gaaras def and sand?????????????????????????

the wood plays no part here. Im just using this to show the distance susanoo can cover in a single bound
 

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the wood plays no part here. Im just using this to show the distance susanoo can cover in a single bound

And regardless of the distance:

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Gaaras sand tanked a bunch of susanoo swords like nothing!
 

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And regardless of the distance:

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Gaaras sand tanked a bunch of susanoo swords like nothing!

yeah these were only clones. considering the strength of susanoo rests in the users chakra, if that chakra is divided 25 times then those susanoo will only be 1/25th.

even if gaara's defense was greater than the tree, consider this.

look how thin that sand is... even if the substance sasuke cut was slightly weaker the difference is made up for by the sheer amount he cut and how easily it was accomplished. you are high if you think a tiny sand wall is protect gaara from this

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yeah these were only clones. considering the strength of susanoo rests in the users chakra, if that chakra is divided 25 times then those susanoo will only be 1/25th.

even if gaara's defense was greater than the tree, consider this.

look how thin that sand is... even if the substance sasuke cut was slightly weaker the difference is made up for by the sheer amount he cut and how easily it was accomplished. you are high if you think a tiny sand wall is protect gaara from this

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What you say makes no sense, and clones do not work like that. Although they do not have as much chakra as the original; the jutsu's preformed are equal in damaged (kcm naruto rasenshurikens, clone TBB from BM naruto, Lighting cutter from kakashi, Man beast clone techs from kiba, Reaper death seal from sarutobi etc etc I literally can go on and on). They are not any weaker in power, just weaker chakra and what not. No where in the manga did it ever suggest his susanoo clones are weaker if madara would use the same form and chakra. Hell his susanoo clones were WOOD susanoo clones which makes them more durable.


Gaaras sand has wayy too many def feats from OP characters and objects to list! Dont get me started with the perfect "Shield of Shukaku"...... Do you really think Gaara hasn't shown way more feats of def? And Btw that tree isnt anything to brag about cutting..
 

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What you say makes no sense, and clones do not work like that. Although they do not have as much chakra as the original; the jutsu's preformed are equal in damaged (kcm naruto rasenshurikens, clone TBB from BM naruto, Lighting cutter from kakashi, Man beast clone techs from kiba, Reaper death seal from sarutobi etc etc I literally can go on and on). They are not any weaker in power, just weaker chakra and what not. No where in the manga did it ever suggest his susanoo clones are weaker if madara would use the same form and chakra. Hell his susanoo clones were WOOD susanoo clones which makes them more durable.


Gaaras sand has wayy too many def feats from OP characters and objects to list! Dont get me started with the perfect "Shield of Shukaku"...... Do you really think Gaara hasn't shown way more feats of def? And Btw that tree isnt anything to brag about cutting..

you see susanoo isn't a normal technique. susanoo's strength comes from the overall strength of their user. notice as sasuke's chakra got colder and stronger his susanoo got stronger. if the user is weaker(wood clones) the the susanoo will be weaker. it makes complete sense.

when you look at the tree in comparison to sasuke's susanoo it actually is a feat. it would be like cutting through a house made of jello(probably stronger that jello) with only a butter knife in one swipe.

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gaara sand has also been pierced by lightning chakra easily not once but twice. let the though of kirin sink in.(note the battle is cloudy)
 

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you see susanoo isn't a normal technique. susanoo's strength comes from the overall strength of their user. notice as sasuke's chakra got colder and stronger his susanoo got stronger. if the user is weaker(wood clones) the the susanoo will be weaker. it makes complete sense.

when you look at the tree in comparison to sasuke's susanoo it actually is a feat. it would be like cutting through a house made of jello(probably stronger that jello) with only a butter knife in one swipe.

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gaara sand has also been pierced by lightning chakra easily not once but twice. let the though of kirin sink in.(note the battle is cloudy)

So we go from susanoo to Lighting now? Kool Story bro! Lighting Anything isn't Getting through the Shield of Shukaku!
 

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So we go from susanoo to Lighting now? Kool Story bro! Lighting Anything isn't Getting through the Shield of Shukaku!

how not? it cuts through gaara sand easily(not that it matters cuz I believe sasuke's new susanoo breaks it)

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now up the scale of the lightning and the sand and the result is still the same
 

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PS = Kyuubi at minimum, possibly even stronger depending on the user's chakra reserves. This is why I say PS Sasuke would just about equal BSM Naruto. 100% BSM Naruto is another story...

PS is much weaker than the full Kyuubi by comparison. Naruto's BM cloak already has far better DC and durability feats
 

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how not? it cuts through gaara sand easily(not that it matters cuz I believe sasuke's new susanoo breaks it)

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now up the scale of the lightning and the sand and the result is still the same

That was weak part one gaara, not current Kazekage/Perfect Jin gaara!

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As you can see, he at the last second stopped a powerful lightning move from a fellow kage. Nothing sasuke has hits harder then what gaara blocked from the raikage (lightning wise). And btw, every lighting attack he did in part one didnt kill or really damage gaara permanently! So that is also a failed attempt. Gaara Wins!
 
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