People who still think Obito giving Kakashi DMS makes no sense

[SasukeSixPack]

It's very simple and was already explained in the Manga. I'll go slow on this topic.

When Obito died he went to the Pure world. This is where all Shinobi go when they die and they go there with their entire powers which were there's when they were alive.

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Just like the Edo Tensei in the war, for example the Edo Kages. When they died the last thing they will remember is the last situation they experience before they die.

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Space time Ninjutsu rips portals open between different planes, dimensions and realms of existence by creating a subspace, according to the Databook which makes a bridge between the "I'm coming from here" realm to the "I'm going to there" realm.

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Since Obito is now a pure entity, he would not be able to take a physical appearence in the impure world. He was essentially like the Souls that were put into bodies via the Edo Tensei.

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Just as Dan did here.

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Then Just as Dan was able to affect Tsunade's physical body despite being a spirity

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Obito did the same thing with Kakashi using his sharingan and then retured to the Pure world.

Right after that, we see Space-Time Ninjutsu being used once more to transport pure entities from the Pure world to the Impure world.

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It can only be Space time Ninjutsu because it warps space and time. Someone like Minato who died couldn't return the same way because he was sealed and someone from the Impure world with Space time Ninjutsu wouldn't be able to go to the pure world because their bodies are impure and it would require too much chakra.

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[SenseiSama]

I get that his ability is Kaguya's S/t on a weaker scale so he should be able to teleport through all worlds. But the thing is returning from the dead is a Rinnegan feat, it would've been more believable if he had Hagoromo's dojutsu

 

[Guntah]

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[SasukeSixPack]

The ability to return from the pure world is a Rinnegan feat

Kamui, Hagoromo's Kuchiyose and the Edo Tensei are all Space-Time Ninjutsu and all returned entities from the plane of the pure world. None of them are Rin'negan techs either.

 

[patrickscott]

Uhh, so you're saying that Obito went to a place where his soul could have used a space time ninjutsu to come back despite the fact that he didn't have his physical body i.e his DMS and then he intervened using Kakashi's body? :|

 

[SasukeSixPack]

Uhh, so you're saying that Obito went to a place where his soul could have used a space time ninjutsu to come back despite the fact that he didn't have his physical body i.e his DMS and then he intervened using Kakashi's body? :|

His spiritual body that existes in the pure world has his DMS.

 

[SenseiSama]

Kamui, Hagoromo's Kuchiyose and the Edo Tensei are all Space-Time Ninjutsu and all returned entities from the plane of the pure world. None of them are Rin'negan techs either.

Kamui can travel to all worlds because it's originally Kaguya's jutsu BUT returning from the dead requires having Outer Path. If he had a tomoe Rinnegan then his feat wouldn't be questioned.

 

[patrickscott]

His spiritual body that existes in the pure world has his DMS.

Bruh if what you're saying is true then Madara can't and shouldn't be able to die. He'd just keep reentering his body using rinne rebirth.

and WTF is a spiritual body? Did you just try to give solid properties to an intangle plasma?

 

[SasukeSixPack]

Bruh if what you're saying is true then Madara can't and shouldn't be able to die. He'd just keep reentering his body using rinne rebirth.

and WTF is a spiritual body? Did you just try to give solid properties to an intangle plasma?

Rinne Rebirth isn't a Spact time Ninjutsu dude. He'd need to have a dead body avaiable when he dies and its already been made clear that once they die they go to the pure world right away.
Madara died with one eye and was ressurected with both which proves me right.

 

[SasukeSixPack]

Kamui can travel to all worlds because it's originally Kaguya's jutsu BUT returning from the dead requires having Outer Path. If he had a tomoe Rinnegan then his feat wouldn't be questioned.

Stop trying to over look the properties of Space time Ninjutsu. It transcends space and time. The pure world is "A Place". The bold is pretty much you agreeing to what i've been saying. Outer path isn't the only way you can return from the pure world, how can u even say that we've already seen it being done via space time curvature.

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[rollin]

i agree with you

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physical energies are stored in the cells while spiritual energies is gained by experience

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obito said that chakra is what connects both worlds

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chakra is made by combining spiritual and physical energies

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edo tensei works by having a specific amount of that person's cells then you use a summoning technique,which is space/time jutsu, and you summon the spiritual energies combine with physical energies from the cells

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obito used kamui,a space/time jutsu,and his spiritual energies combined with his physical from his cells and it formed his chakra

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edo tensei is basically using the persons dna(physical energies)to summon their spiritual energies from the pure world
and obito used his kamui to make his spiritual energies come back through his cells

 

[patrickscott]

Rinne Rebirth isn't a Spact time Ninjutsu dude. He'd need to have a dead body avaiable when he dies and its already been made clear that once they die they go to the pure world right away.
Madara died with one eye and was ressurected with both which proves me right.

Coming from the land of the dead back to the living doesn't transcend space or time?

 

[Tyris]

No1 cares about their gay chakra infusions between the two who need have each other to still equate to fodder

Ass pulled plot holes

 

[NextGenNinja]

Yeah, i know but it's just the whole logic obito introduced is insanely ridiculous. Technically, hagoromo can give a fodder like iruka the rinnegan just by simply possessing him. :|

 

[SasukeSixPack]

Coming from the land of the dead back to the living doesn't transcend space or time?

Not with the Gedou Rin'ne Tensei.

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The King of Hell restores the souls of those who died simply because it has direct access to the pure world. The souls still have to travel through space and takes time to reach and revive the dead bodies.

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The same thing happenes when the souls were released from the Edo Tensei.

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They travel upwards in a beam of light to the pure world.
Obito warping from the pure world to the impure world while skipping the whole travel distance which takes time is transcending space and time.

 

[rollin]

Yeah, i know but it's just the whole logic obito introduced is insanely ridiculous. Technically, hagoromo can give a fodder like iruka the rinnegan just by simply possessing him. :|

hago cant be summoned without meeting requirements

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obito wouldnt be able to come back from the pure world if his dna was damaged and didn't have his physical energies,the same with edo tensei

 

[Jiren]

Smells like bullshit

 

[SenseiSama]

Stop trying to over look the properties of Space time Ninjutsu. It transcends space and time. The pure world is "A Place". The bold is pretty much you agreeing to what i've been saying. Outer path isn't the only way you can return from the pure world, how can u even say that we've already seen it being done via space time curvature.

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I'm not saying he can't do it. I'm saying he can't do it once he's DEAD. Coming back from the dead is NOT a part of S/t, it's an OUTER PATH feat therefore requires having RINNEGAN powers.

 

[NextGenNinja]

hago cant be summoned without meeting requirements

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obito wouldnt be able to come back from the pure world if his dna was damaged and didn't have his physical energies,the same with edo tensei

I was giving an example, still that doesn't justify obito being able to give kakashi all of kamui abilities, even a damn PS too? That's why people call it an asspull.

 

[Char Aznable]

Did you try to logic an obvious asspull?