People mistake Sasuke for being a realist

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People say that Sasuke would be a better hokage than Naruto because he is rational and a realist. This is false however.
Now I will admit that Naruto is not exactly the most rational, but Sasuke is pretty irrational as well.
The only instance of showing more rationality than Naruto that Sasuke has had, was during the last chapter when he gave Naruto that speech about how they can't sacrifice their lives for Kakashi and Sakura.

Let us review Sasuke's recent dialogue and behavior:

Many people say that trash talking Kakashi and Sakura was just being realistic and telling the truth. However, it was really more of a waste of time than anything. Sasuke bashed Sakura and Kakashi for simply asking what was going on outside. He had planned to tell Naruto anyway. Instead of simply answering Sakura aloud, which would have allowed the whole group to hear the answer, he decided to bash. Therefore this was just a waste of time, since he just ended up telling everyone by telling Naruto anyway.

True realists value efficiency. How efficient was it to waste the time to bash people when he would just end up letting the whole group hear anyway? Furthermore, a realist would realize that Kakashi and Sakura (although useless in physical battle) would still be capable of analyzing the opponent. Can you honestly say that this fact is false?

Also, if he really wanted to keep Sakura and Kakashi out of the way, then he should have pushed them out of the susanoo. That would have kept them safer and out of the way. It would not let light in because you can actually go out of susanoo without making a hole, as shown by the time Gaara pulled Madara out of his susanoo.


Then there was the time he got stabbed by Madara. He just jumped in recklessly (without even putting up a susanoo ribcage or anything). Do you call that rational? A 5 year old would know to simply attack someone that was just falling at them from the air. They may not have limbo, but they would still know to swing a bat or something.


Some time before this, he tried to attack Madara using mere kenjutsu after seeing that amaterasu had no effect. Kenjutsu? Really? Is this what you call rational?

Now lets talk about his ideology. Yes Naruto's is too idealistic, but Sasuke doesn't exactly seem to have a method for peace either. He just says that he wants to change the system. That is way too vague to call his ideals realistic, yet people seem to think that he is so rational.
Madara and Obito actually had a plan (and it was a great one except for the white zetsu thing which they probably didn't know about). Nagato had an actual plan. Naruto and Sasuke only have words.

The fact that Sasuke even assumes that he will be let back into Konoha shows that he is not that realistic, let alone become hokage. He is still an international criminal. He also does not seem to get that the village people play a role in choosing the hokage. Therefore, people have to like him (and nobody does)! Is this rational?

Conclusion: Being rude is not the same as being rational.
 

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Lel, he actually thinks he can be Hokage. How does anyone take him seriously?
 

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Sakura: Sasuke whats going on out there?

Sasuke: It doesn't matter there's nothing you can do.

Not trying to bash Sakura but that is the truth. He didn't do it to be rude, pointlessly talking about what we ALL know is going on would waste panel time anyways.

Also Sasuke Sasuke saved everyones lives already and of course Narutos their to back him up. You honestly think that at this point the 5 pages give a shit about Sasuke showing up the Kage summit? The only reason Raikage gave a shit was cuz he thought Killer bee was dead. Nobody likes Danzo. And they are teaming up with the likes of Orochimaru.

Any further conflicts or beef between Sasuke and anyone other than Naruto would be childish.
 
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Please, shut up.
If it happens and I see another thread then please be kind and eat your own words...same with Naruto sasuke flappers.
 

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Only fapboys value sasuke as a leader. He is clearly mentally unstable, and acts like an ******* every change he has. Best case scenario? He would turn the system into a dictatorship. Worst? He kills everyone who he considers weaker, which will be pretty much everyone.

If that's what these people want, then why don't they move to a current dictatorship to have a taste of it? Idiots.
 

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Lol i actually agree with you.
 

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Sasuke is practical. That is not the same as being a realist. He is more objective in analyzing situations but he also acts irrationally based on his emotions.
 

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Sakura: Sasuke whats going on out there?

Sasuke: It doesn't matter there's nothing you can do.

Not trying to bash Sakura but that is the truth. He didn't do it to be rude. Pointlessly talking about what we ALL know is going on would waste panel time anyways.

He was going to tell Naruto anyway. They didn't all know what was going on out there. Since Naruto was necessary, he was going to tell Naruto. Therefore, he did waste time by bashing Sakura. The goal was to tell Naruto. By skipping the bash and answering the question Naruto would have heard anyway and Sasuke would have saved a whole few seconds.
 

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He was going to tell Naruto anyway. They didn't all know what was going on out there. Since Naruto was necessary, he was going to tell Naruto. Therefore, he did waste time by bashing Sakura. The goal was to tell Naruto. By skipping the bash and answering the question Naruto would have heard anyway and Sasuke would have saved a whole few seconds.

Do you not see what kishi is trying to do :|
 

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The whole Sakura and Kakashi situation was basically him saying "You can't do anything, if you try anything you'll get killed, so don't try anything."

Sasuke just expresses himself in a douchey manner. If it was Naruto, or Hinata, it would have came out as something like "The enemy is too strong, if you try to fight, they'll kill you, so please don't fight." Sasuke said that because he knew Sakura intended to analyse the info he would have told her, and form some of strategy that would have involved her.
 

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Do you not see what kishi is trying to do :|

He is trying to solidify Sasuke as a bad guy (not as in villain, but as in personality) in order to highlight the prominent differences in ideology between Naruto and Sasuke, and further develop the path leading up to their inevitable clash. I get this.

It still doesn't change the fact that Sasuke's "truth" was simply a waste of time that only further solidifies Sasuke as an a-hole rather than showcasing realism.
 
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Sasuke has sharp instincts & calm mind, but I don't see much of a difference between him & a corrupted dictator
 

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The whole Sakura and Kakashi situation was basically him saying "You can't do anything, if you try anything you'll get killed, so don't try anything."

Sasuke just expresses himself in a douchey manner. If it was Naruto, or Hinata, it would have came out as something like "The enemy is too strong, if you try to fight, they'll kill you, so please don't fight." Sasuke said that because he knew Sakura intended to analyse the info he would have told her, and form some of strategy that would have involved her.

1. It still wasted time to even say this when he was just going to tell Naruto anyway (thus allowing everyone to hear it and rendering his "you're useless" speech redundant.

2. Sasuke doesn't care a thing about Sakura. Therefore he would never tell her "you're useless" for her own safety. He doesn't care about her safety.

3. Even if he did care about Kakashi and Sakura's safety, it would be much quicker to just answer Sakura's question from the beginning (since she just ended up hearing it anyway), and then simply telling Kakashi and Sakura afterward to not get involved with the combat. That would convey the "don't get in the way" message in a much more efficient manner (while avoiding conflict).
 

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"Sasuke bashed Sakura and Kakashi for simply asking what was going on outside. He had planned to tell Naruto anyway. Instead of simply answering Sakura aloud, which would have allowed the whole group to hear the answer, he decided to bash."

its better to bash all of em, or else they would act recklessly. kakashi and sakura would act like a boss, while the fact is they can do nothing useful.

"Also, if he really wanted to keep Sakura and Kakashi out of the way, then he should have pushed them out of the susanoo. That would have kept them safer and out of the way. It would not let light in because you can actually go out of susanoo without making a hole, as shown by the time Gaara pulled Madara out of his susanoo."

wtf is this? push them out? they would be affected by it, right? when they talked (sasuke bashed them), the light was still shining

"He just jumped in recklessly (without even putting up a susanoo ribcage or anything). Do you call that rational?"

i would call that plot, retarded. kishi wanted to kill him and could find any rasional reason. thats why he just jumped. anyway madara was distracted by tobirama back then, and he knew that madra once was killed by getting stabbed by a sword. thats it

"Now lets talk about his ideology. Yes Naruto's is too idealistic, but Sasuke doesn't exactly seem to have a method for peace either. He just says that he wants to change the system. That is way too vague to call his ideals realistic, yet people seem to think that he is so rational."

he msut change the system. spreading the bijuu caused this. he wants to change that wso MT wouldnt happen anymore. and no one will suffer of being jin. akatsuki was also one of many that made itachi suffer. thus, he doesnt want the bijuu spread. he wanted to burn the bijuu, but naruto has 9 bijuu chakra although just a little, he isnt bothered right? because the bijuus are in one place.

anyway thats the path he chose. naruto is yang, sasuke is yin.

"The fact that Sasuke even assumes that he will be let back into Konoha shows that he is not that realistic, let alone become hokage. He is still an international criminal. He also does not seem to get that the village people play a role in choosing the hokage. Therefore, people have to like him (and nobody does)! Is this rational?"

sasuke is criminal? he hasnt even killed any ninja. danzo? he committed suicide in his last moment. yes he took part of taking hachibi, but it was just few chakra of it. and he took part of taking it back (the war). he helped the SA beat juubito which held hachibi's few chakra in it. disturbing 5 kages? well 5 kages were the ones who came to him. he was only looking for danzo. when he arrived the 5 kages came to him but after getting away from a and gaara and samurai (which were not his target), he went to find danzo.

is there a proof of people taking part in choosing hokage? nah, all i know is that the elders choose. see the tsunade part.

sasuke defo will be the hero of the war, together with naruto. people will change their mind about him. and he has done a lot for SA although not directly.

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jesus christ it took just few minutes for naruto's friends to begin trusting him. anyway the vicilian and ordinary people dont know as much as konoha shinobi do about sasuke. it will be even easier to make em have faith in sasuke
 

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Well Sasuke was at least honest on what he's saying but he is an ungrateful baştard.... he acts as if he busted his ass off being this strong...
 

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Please, shut up.
If it happens and I see another thread then please be kind and eat your own words...same with Naruto sasuke flappers.

Why should he? He made a thread voicing his own opinions, he is entitled to them. You shouldn't comment if all you are gonna say is"Please, shut up" Lol
 
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