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Naruto didn't land yet, the chameleon was there after Bansho Tennin was used (unless you're saying Bansho Tennin can pull multiple things at once, which would only help me).
How can he avoid Bansho Tennin, if he doesn't know it's coming? Exactly. Him having shadow clones at the ready would be prep time. Also, are you saying Nagato, who possesses Madara's eyes, would not be able to see through Naruto's kage bunshin?
Bee's chakra cloak is 9 times more than that of his own V1. I wasn't comparing it to that of Naruto's at all.
Futile argument; we simply don't know how much time has passed since BM Naruto entered into BM again. Naruto can't win, simple as that. Bansho Tennin, Human Path immobilizing him and Preta Path sapping him of his chakra at the same time are all too much for him.



The toad summons wouldn't be able to sense the chameleon either, now would they? :rolleyes:.
If BM Naruto gets close to smashing him, here's what happens:
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At no cost to Nagato himself, as that would be using the chakra he just gained from Naruto.

No he never used Bansho Tenin on Naruto. The Chameleon summon captured him please read the manga correctly.. if you still dont believe that I'll find the anime scene of that part. Kakashi didnt know Bansho Tenin was coming yet he used chains to stop himself temporarily.. Naruto will do the same except he'll use shadow clone jutsu during the time period he is using his chakra arm to hold on to something those clones will distract Nagato while naruto brings out the Kyuubi. Btw I never said Naruto would have shadow clones beforehand I don't know where you got that from.. refer to the sentence above. Ok cool when did I ever say Nagato couldnt see through clones? He still got fooled by Kakashi's clone and even if he saw through them he'll still have to get past kage level clones.

Ok one shinra tensei isnt going to finish Naruto but thats if he can even react in time to Naruto's shunshin which he probably cant since he couldnt react to amaterasu. :rolleyes:Even if that doesnt work Naruto could just stay in the Kyuubi and use the kyuubi to defeat nagato Nagato.
 
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Of course mate, I just think it is a very cheap way to say he beats everyone by using CT. It's ok if they say he wins, but I am tired of people spamming that. Because of that, I think; Would Nagato even be strong if he didn't have CT?

Without resorting to CT, Nagato took on one of the Five Major Villages, before tackling Sage Naruto, and for a brief time, his Six Tailed Kyuubi transformation - all from the comfort of his wheel chair.

So my answer is, yes.
 

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1. @Bold: Give me proof of this, lol

2. How is kurama gonna smash nagato when he's made of chakra, please tell me??
what youre saying makes absolutely no sense, you say kurama can smash nagato but how? In what way can kurama possibly "smash" nagato??
I dont't have to unless youre a complete idiot. You honestly cant believe that Nagato can absorb the kyuubi's near ifinite chakra supply in a short time lulz.

2.So because the Kyuubi is made out of chakra he can't do any physical attacks? I guess Susanoo cant either. Oh I dont know use its tails or use his paws to squish him like a bug?
 

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I dont't have to unless youre a complete idiot. You honestly cant believe that Nagato can absorb the kyuubi's near ifinite chakra supply in a short time lulz.

lol okay, unless you provide proof that nagato cant absorb chakra in a near instant amount of time then you lose on this point ;)

I gave you a scan of nagato reducing bee's chakra from a 5 tail V2 cloak to nothing in 1 panel, so i dont need to prove myself any further with this

2.So because the Kyuubi is made out of chakra he can't do any physical attacks? I guess Susanoo cant either. Oh I dont know use its tails or use his paws to squish him like a bug?

@Bold: exactly, and you're right, susanoo cant harm nagato, only totsuka can because its a sealing sword.

Kurama's tails are made out of chakra....

Same as his paws.....

Nothing that kurama is made out of has a physical form, therefore it is chakra and can be sucked up via preta path, fact.

Nagato wins :)
 

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lol okay, unless you provide proof that nagato cant absorb chakra in a near instant amount of time then you lose on this point ;)

I gave you a scan of nagato reducing bee's chakra from a 5 tail V2 cloak to nothing in 1 panel, so i dont need to prove myself any further with this



@Bold: exactly, and you're right, susanoo cant harm nagato, only totsuka can because its a sealing sword.

Kurama's tails are made out of chakra....

Same as his paws.....

Nothing that kurama is made out of has a physical form, therefore it is chakra and can be sucked up via preta path, fact.

Nagato wins :)
You know what I'm done with you lol youre either trolling or not very smart. You think Bee's V2 equals all of Kurama's chakra supply that alone shows youre not someone worth to argue with. Then you say Susanoo cant hurt Nagato unless he uses Totsuka blade? Yeah I'm done with you.
 

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You know what I'm done with you lol youre either trolling or not very smart. You think Bee's V2 equals all of Kurama's chakra supply that alone shows youre not someone worth to argue with. Then you say Susanoo cant hurt Nagato unless he uses Totsuka blade? Yeah I'm done with you.

lol youre done because you fail to provide any evidence to your claims, you think that naruto can win when clearly that's not the case :rolleyes:

@Bold: Did I say that?

No I said i have proof that nagato can absorb 5 tails worth of chakra in an instant. Thats more than enough to make naruto either retreat or switch to KM/base form, lol

Susanoo is chakra, preta path absorbs chakra, tell me how this doesnt make sense? :sy:

You have no evidence to support this either XD

Have fun denying the hard truth bro ;)
 

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lol youre done because you fail to provide any evidence to your claims, you think that naruto can win when clearly that's not the case :rolleyes:

@Bold: Did I say that?

No I said i have proof that nagato can absorb 5 tails worth of chakra in an instant. Thats more than enough to make naruto either retreat or switch to KM/base form, lol

Susanoo is chakra, preta path absorbs chakra, tell me how this doesnt make sense? :sy:

You have no evidence to support this either XD

Have fun denying the hard truth bro ;)
No I'm done because its pointless arguing against someone with low intelligence like yours.. Atleast Omnipotent provided real arguments not bs ones like you. And again youre not listening to what I'm saying. For the third time I was NEVER talking about Naruto in his cloak form I was talking about the KYUUBI Get that through your thick skull.. By your logic Nagato can defeat the Kyuubi no difficulty since he can absorb his near ifinite chakra almost instantly.

Ahhh.. if only can call you some certain words but I wouldnt want to get banned do I? :sy: It seems you have poor reading skills as youre always putting words that I never said or making counter arguments to things Ive never mentioned. I use to think you were smart but now I lost all respect towards you.
 

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No I'm done because its pointless arguing against someone with low intelligence like yours.. Atleast Omnipotent provided real arguments not bs ones like you. And again youre not listening to what I'm saying. For the third time I was NEVER talking about Naruto in his cloak form I was talking about the KYUUBI Get that through your thick skull.. By your logic Nagato can defeat the Kyuubi no difficulty since he can absorb his near ifinite chakra almost instantly.

LOL fail...

So you think naruto can go full kurama??? Wake up......Naruto cant use kurama's physical form, fact. Wanna go on making up anymore abilities for him?

Ahhh.. if only can call you some certain words but I wouldnt want to get banned do I? :sy: It seems you have poor reading skills as youre always putting words that I never said or making counter arguments to things Ive never mentioned.

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Okay, then in your own words, how can naruto win if he has no way of harming nagato? :rolleyes:

Also, sow me where i "put words into your mouth" and made counter arguments for you? I rebutted everything you said :eek:
 

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LOL fail...

So you think naruto can go full kurama??? Wake up......Naruto cant use kurama's physical form, fact. Wanna go on making up anymore abilities for him?



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Okay, then in your own words, how can naruto win if he has no way of harming nagato? :rolleyes:

Also, sow me where i "put words into your mouth" and made counter arguments for you? I rebutted everything you said :eek:
Yup. Bm Naruto>Nagato. Even if by some chance thats not true Naruto is still going to get stronger :) Anyways I'm out
 

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Yup. Bm Naruto>Nagato. Even if by some chance thats not true Naruto is still going to get stronger :) Anyways I'm out

Unless naruto develops an attack that can counter preta path then he will always be weaker than nagato

cant argue with the manga :hint:
 

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Unless naruto develops an attack that can counter preta path then he will always be weaker than nagato

cant argue with the manga :hint:

yup itachi>Nagato since he Nagato got sealed.
 

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nagato > bm naruto. But people overrate nagato, nagato does not use the rinnegan's ability at its best because his body is not made for the rinnegan hence why he is sick, he would be much stronger with an natural uchiha/senju body. And yes itachi would solo naruto and nagato, since we are all theoretically speaking itachi will have ems.
 

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Naruto didn't land yet, the chameleon was there after Bansho Tennin was used (unless you're saying Bansho Tennin can pull multiple things at once, which would only help me).
How can he avoid Bansho Tennin, if he doesn't know it's coming? Exactly. Him having shadow clones at the ready would be prep time. Also, are you saying Nagato, who possesses Madara's eyes, would not be able to see through Naruto's kage bunshin?
Bee's chakra cloak is 9 times more than that of his own V1. I wasn't comparing it to that of Naruto's at all.
Futile argument; we simply don't know how much time has passed since BM Naruto entered into BM again. Naruto can't win, simple as that. Bansho Tennin, Human Path immobilizing him and Preta Path sapping him of his chakra at the same time are all too much for him.



The toad summons wouldn't be able to sense the chameleon either, now would they? :rolleyes:.
If BM Naruto gets close to smashing him, here's what happens:
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At no cost to Nagato himself, as that would be using the chakra he just gained from Naruto.

Actually, Nagato never used universal pull on naruto. Naruto was still in mid-air when the chameleon caught him, then Nagato dashed toward him. You can even see the dash lines behind Nagato in the 5th panel indicating that nagato moved toward him.
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because it's one of the strongest jutsu

and because Nagato is the strongest and the best and the Coolest Rinnegan User SO FAR
 

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Nagato > BM Naruto with or without CT.
Bansho Tennin + Preta Path solo.
If not that, Bansho Tennin + Human Path, which is even faster.

1) Hashirama
2) Madara
3) Obito
4) Nagato
5) Naruto
6) Kabuto
7) Sasuke
8) Tobirama/Itachi/Minato
9) Muu/Nidaime Mizukage
10) Sandaime Raikage

We are all using our imagination and we are all theoretically speaking. We are all imagining how the fight goes in our head. Since we are I also imagine Itachi taking sasukes eyes enabling him to achieve EMS, he will then have PS, totuska blade with yata mirrior, and also tsukuyomi, izanagi, izanami. He will be able to cast his spells without going blind, and taking less chakra to cast it. So here is the real list.

1.EMS Itachi
2.Hashirama
3.EMS Madara
4.Obito
5.Nagato
6.Kabuto
7.Naruto

No doubt by the end of the series naruto will be at #1
 
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Actually, Nagato never used universal pull on naruto. Naruto was still in mid-air when the chameleon caught him, then Nagato dashed toward him. You can even see the dash lines behind Nagato in the 5th panel indicating that nagato moved toward him.
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Exactly that's what I told him.. Idk whether you think Naruto>Nagato or vice versa but anyways you should look at draphsins argument tell me whether you agree or not be honest.
 

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Exactly that's what I told him.. Idk whether you think Naruto>Nagato or vice versa but anyways you should look at draphsins argument tell me whether you agree or not be honest.

preta path:
The Preta Path (餓鬼道, Gakidō) grants the user the ability to absorb an infinite amount of chakra in any form using the Blocking Technique Absorption Seal. Pain channelled the Preta Path through the corpse of a Kusagakure shinobi.
This ability was primarily defensive in nature as it is capable of absorbing most ninjutsu-based techniques, thereby nullifying its effect. This technique can also take the form of a barrier around the user's entire body, allowing them to absorb attacks from all directions. In addition to this, the Preta Path is able to absorb chakra from an individual through physical contact.

Since Naruto's tailed beast mode is basically him shrouded in Kurama's chakra, Nagato can absorb his shroud and all his ninjutsu-based attacks, and render them useless.

Nagato is naruto's worst match-up because of preta path's ability.
 

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preta path:

Since Naruto's tailed beast mode is basically him shrouded in Kurama's chakra, Nagato can absorb his shroud and all his ninjutsu-based attacks, and render them useless.

Nagato is naruto's worst match-up because of preta path's ability.

Yeah I got that but the argument I was trying to make is that Nagato can't absorb all of that chakra in an instant as Drasphin was saying.. I mean the Kyuubi has like near infinite chakra... That gives Naruto enough time to blind side him and KO him with an SM clone. Madara has preta path too but I haven't seen him catching Naruto and sucking up his Chakra... You guys are overrating Nagato too much..
Yeah he's freakishly powerful but BM Naruto beats him..

edit: The Kyuubi Shroud is an extension to naruto so he should be able to attack with it... And as I said above Nagato can't absorb all of that chakra in a mere few seconds. Naruto can clobber him with the kyuubi shroud.
 
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Youre telling me that he can absorb ALL of the kyuubis chakra quickly? xd Please give me some of what youre smoking lol

And wrong Naruto uses the kyuubi to do this.
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Then he goes back to his cloaked form and walks out of the whole the Kyuubi made. :)


So youre telling me that bee's v2 lariat is stronger than the kyuubi's attacks?

Ok I didnt know Nagato can be at two places at the same time... I said the summons would fight nagatos so naruto would be able to fight nagato without any distractions.

I don't see how that makes the situation any different.....he wouldn't be at two place at the same time....you just said the frogs and naruto would be fighting him, so they're all in the same area

One shinra tensei blast was enough to defeat the Toads or the "distraction"

You didn't get my point about the V2 attack.....the V2 attack was powerful because of the hachibi chakra, when Bee used Lariat on Nagato, he sucked away all the chakra that was put into the move which made it deadly

he didn't suck away all of Bee's chakra, just the chakra from the attack

Naruto's Bijuu Mode attacks are all chakra, and it has been shown that Nagato has no limit thus far to the amount of chakra he can absorb

If say for instance, Naruto in kyuubi mode hit Nagato with the claw, nagato would suck up the chakra that went into the claw(much like how he sucked up V2 which was near instant) and probably take Naruto out of that form

it doesn't mean he would suck all of Naruto's chakra out....just the amount that was put into the attack
 
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